SITE MENU
Apple voice search
More topics coming
APPLE VOICE SEARCH
With Siri connected, you can search this site from any Apple device connected to the Internet. Here's how:

Just say 'Hey Siri' to your computer, laptop, tablet or phone.

When Siri answers, say 'thinkers bible' and whatever key words or questions express your search intent.

Examples:

'hey siri ... thinkers bible creation'

'hey siri ... thinkers bible big bang'

'hey siri ... thinkers bible how old is the earth'

Siri can search deep into all pages on this site and present you with a hot link ready to tap, taking you to the page containing the information you requested.
Close apple search
◀︎Close menu
This is some text inside of a div block.
Home◀︎BackMoreNext ▶︎
MICRO TOPIC 1.4.2

Q&A Garden of Eden

Frequently asked questions
PURPOSE: Helping Christians engage in intelligent and persuasive conversations with doubters and unbelievers
Bible creation questions

QUESTIONS

discussed on this page

Tough questions people are asking about what happened in the Garden of Eden:

Did the Garden of Eden story actually happen, to is it just a myth?

Who was present to record the words and events?

Who wrote the story? How much oral tradition preceded it?

Who sinned first? Satan? Eve? Adam?

How did God punish them?

Did Adam's punishment apply just to him, or does it apply also to his descendants? Everyone guilty?

How can anyone give an intelligent and compelling biblical answer to people who think that Christians are naive for believing such an incredulous fairy tale?

▼Back

REAL OR MYTH?

Story sounds incredulous

Different points of view

Many Christians believe that the Genesis story of the Garden of Eden is a parable rather than an actual fact.

Jesus used parables often in his teaching, and people are not troubled by whether or not the event actually happened. Was the Good Samaritan an actual person? The injured man real?The words spoken to the innkeeper an exact quotation?

Effective teaching can be accomplished by telling an illustrative story (parable) as well by reporting an actual event.

Whether an actual event or allegory, the basic teaching in this story is clear either way.

Viewpoint on this site

THE VIEWPOINT ON THIS SITE is that the Garden of Eden was a real place at a real time with real people, for these reasons:

  • No clues. The story – and the writing style – give no clue that it is anything other than a historical account.
  • Jesus' family tree. The biblical genealogy goes back as far as Eve, where the recorded history begins. The genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 (see chart) trace the life of Jesus in a whole line of male succession from Eve through Seth, Abraham, Joseph, David, dozens of others, and ultimately to Mary, the virgin mother of Jesus. It would make no sense for Luke to name real person after real person but have it all start with a mythical person.
  • New Testament references. The New Testament refers to Adam in Romans 5 and I Corinthians 15 and contrasts him to Jesus. It is clear that this is a contrast between two real persons, not just two literary figures.
  • Location. Genesis 2:8-14 describes the location of the 'garden in the east, in Eden' where there are four rivers (Piston, which winds through Havilah where there is gold, aromatic resin and onyx; Gihon, which winds through land of Cush; Tigris, which runs along the east side of Asshur; and the Euphrates.) After six thousand years, the smaller rivers Piston and Gihon are no longer recognizable, but the Tigris and Euphrates are still flowing their courses to the Persian Gulf. This seems to be a description of a real place, not a mythical place.

The Eden story is written in the simple way of the ancients, not the way we report events today with sophisticated language. Back then, ethereal concepts were often represented symbolically, a type of shorthand:

  • Serpent represented evil. There may not have been an actual talking snake, but a strong temptation to violate God's rule.
  • God walking in the garden may not have been actual movement on legs and feet, but God's spirit present throughout the garden (can't hide from Him).
  • Angel with flaming sword guarding the entrance may be a way of saying that God will no longer let anyone have access to the Tree of Life in the garden.

These symbols have visual impact to aid comprehension and memory retention for people who are illiterate. The story apparently was passed by word of mouth for about 2,500 years – from time of Adam (about BC 4000) until time of Moses (about BC 1500) – longer than the time from Jesus to today!

Whether or not the story contains symbolic elements and figurative people, the essential meaning is clear:

Satan's temptation resulted in the first deliberate act of defiance to God – 'the trespass' in Bible study here on Romans 5, trying to take God's place – and punishment was denial of access to eternal life, which was once offered.

Introduction to the entire Bible

The Garden of Eden story is the oldest story in the world, and it's the framework for all Christian spiritual belief. The story is told at the beginning of the Bible and serves as an introduction to the entire Bible by referencing important principles covered in detail in other parts of the Bible.

The Bible is a mini-library of spiritual documents. As we experience it today, our single printed volume is 66 small books bound together, about 1,200 pages in total, arranged in approximate historical sequence.

It starts with a sharp picture of God making first contact with humans and ends with a shadowy glimpse of life after death for humans. Inbetween is considerable information about how we should live our lives now. The major themes are laid out in this first story.

WHO RECORDED THE EVENTS?

Somehow God told the author

Long oral tradition

As discussed above, it appears that the story of Adam and Eve was transmitted by oral tradition for about 2,500 years before it was put into writing!

Without divine intervention, it is unreasonable to believe that exact words and sequence of words could be preserved by word of mouth from generation to generation over that long a time without critical distortions and conflicting versions.

There is only one rational conclusion: God gave the words to the writer and supervised the preservation, though we don't know how.

Reasons for trust

In the Garden of Eden story, we can't prove the actual words spoken because no reporter was there to record events as they happened. Furthermore, the words ascribed to God and others occurred before there were languages capable of conveying nuanced meanings.

So how do we know that these ancient conversations and events recorded in Genesis are trustworthy? WE BACK INTO THEM LOGICALLY, like this:

  • Genesis says that the earth had a beginning, contrary to what was 'settled science' until less than 60 years ago.
  • Genesis says that the earth began as swirling gas in total darkness, contrary to all theories of ancient times.
  • Genesis says that there was vegetation before sunshine, contrary to common-sense observation.
  • Genesis says that fish came before birds ... birds before animals ... and animals before humans, an order that was out of sequence in ancient thinking.
  • Genesis says Eve's offspring (Jesus, 4000 years later) will crush the power of Satan.

(For study on these points, see Big Bang and Bible creation 'days.')

How could the writer possibly have known these things unless God told him? The probability of being correct thousands of years ago on all five of these counter-intuitive points would be far beyond the realm of chance, probably in the order of something like 1000x1000x1000x1000x1000.

If we have powerful evidence for trusting the transmitter, then we can trust the transmissions, even though we don't know how it works.

Christians believe that God superintended and preserved the Garden of Eden story in a way that is sufficient for all people at all times and all places to grasp its native meanings.

WHO WROTE THE STORY?

Tradition says Moses was the writer

The story

In the Eden story, God came to earth in person, for the first time ever, and talked to man, establishing a personal relationship and setting rules. The almighty designer-creator God of the universe coming to man! Almost inconceivable!

The Garden of Eden was a paradise, but not perfect. God said this garden (special place) needed people to work it, presumably because of the normal aging, death and re-birth that was occurring throughout the earth. God placed Adam (already created) into this garden. Satan was already there.

In ancient times – before writing and books – information was transmitted as stories that could be remembered and passed on from generation to generation. Each part of the story was packed with meaning and was explained over and over again by elders to youth, with stern rebuke and correction for even the most trivial deviation. To the ancients, the meaning was the most important part of the story.

See Q&A Garden of Eden for major elements of the story.

God showed up in person and talked to man, establishing a personal relationship. The almighty designer-creator God of the universe! Almost inconceivable!

The Garden of Eden was a paradise, but not perfect. It needed someone to work it, probably because of some death and dying in the course of nature. And Satan was there.

Adam's sin

A quick reading of the story indicates that Adam's sin was that he ate forbidden fruit, but a careful study shows that eating the fruit was just the outward manifestation of the real sin. God looks through the action, into the heart, to see the motives.

'You will not certainly die, the serpent said to the woman. For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they realized they were naked [God saw their motive] ...' (Genesis 3:4-7)

Adam's sin was that he wanted to be his own god and follow his own rules, no longer subject to God's rules.

The consequences of Adam's sin are discussed at length in the Bible study here on Romans 5.

Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis

Until the last three hundred years, Jews and Christians were almost unanimous in their belief that Moses was the author and/or compiler of the book of Genesis.

Moses was the ideal person for God to use for the writing. He was born an Israelite (slave family in Egypt) but was adopted as a son into Pharaoh's household. He was well-educated and understood the world around him. Then God called him to lead the Israelites out of slavery and form a new nation to proclaim to the world that there is only ONE GOD, who must be worshiped and obeyed.

More recently, most Bible scholars have come to believe that Genesis is a compilation of materials written at different times by four or more authors, one of whom was Moses.

The authorship issue cannot be settled by Bible study because the Bible does not name or identify the writer.

Other portions of scripture – including statements from Jesus – refer to Moses writing 'the law' (usually referring to the first five books of the Bible, called the Pentatuch) but this alone does not establish Moses' role in writing Genesis.

It really doesn't matter who wrote and/or compiled the Genesis account of the Garden of Eden as long as we have confidence that the message is from God.

WHAT ABOUT EVE?

Eve was cloned, not born

Eve was not the first woman

'So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man' (Genesis 2:21-24).

Time gap. Apparently there was a big time gap – thousands of years –between Genesis 1:27 (when God created humans, male and female) and Genesis 2:15 (when Good placed Adam in the Garden of Eden). Entire cities were built in that interval, and Adam's firstborn son married a wife in one of those cities.

Translation of 'made.' In Genesis 1:27 male and female humans were 'created' (Hebrew word bara), but in Genesis 2:22 Eve was 'made' (Hebrew word wayyiben). There is a big difference. Bara means created as a whole new kind of entity. Wayyiben means formed, fashioned or built from an entity already existing.

When God first brought Eve to Adam, Adam said 'she shall be called woman' (female, mother). How would Adam have understand at first glance about sexuality and human reproduction if he had never seen a human mother before? (Genesis 1:15 says God took him from the outside and put him in the Garden.)

As punishment, God said to her, 'I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing.' If Eve were the first woman on earth it would make no sense for God to INCREASE the pain of something that never before existed.

Eve was a real person

Many people believe Eve was a mythical person, but the Bible does not treat her that way. The Bible genealogy of Jesus runs clearly from Eve directly to Mary. God would not deceive us by starting with a fictitious person. See Bible study here on people before Adam for reasons why Adam and Eve were real people.

Eve may have been cloned from Adam (side)

We don't know any details about how God created Eve, but here are some new thoughts to consider in light of linguistic knowledge and modern science:

Translation of 'rib.' In the original Hebrew, the word is 'tsela,' translated as 'rib' in the King James Bible and most English Bibles ever since. That Hebrew word is used 41 times in the Old Testament, but Genesis 2:21 is the only time the word is translated as 'rib.' All other times it is translated as 'side,' a clarification many English translations now acknowledge in a footnote.

Translation of 'closed up the place with flesh.' In the original Hebrew, 'the place' is 'tachtenah' and is usually translated as 'underneath it.'

Usual image. From translations in most English Bibles, we get this mental image: God makes a big incision in Adam ... cuts off and pulls out a rib bone ... bloody operation ... closes up the opening and leaves Adam with one less rib.

Alternate image. By using the translations above – side and underneath it – we get a different mental image: God takes some tissue from Adam's side – as is now done routinely in cloning animals – and immediately heals the flesh underneath it.

Cloning. Cloning of humans is now possible but illegal. The first mammal cloned was Dolly, the sheep, in 1996, from a cell taken from the mammary gland of a donor sheep. It proved that a cell from the side of a body can create a whole new individual without sperm or egg. Cloning of animals is now common and big business (especially cloning of race horses). Ancient people would have no understanding of this, but it appears to us now that God may have formed Eve through some kind of cloning.

First miracle (Eve)

Regardless of how God did it – by bone or by tissue – this was apparently the first miracle; i.e., the first time God suspended natural laws to do something very unusual and special.

God could have just 'placed' (from the outside) a woman in the Garden – like he did Adam – but instead chose to bypass the normal birth and maturation process. God fashioned an instant wife for Adam.

About 4000 years later, God performed another birth miracle  – known to us as the Virgin Birth – to bring Jesus into the world.

First institution (marriage)

WHY did God form Eve in a miraculous way?

'THAT IS WHY a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh' (Genesis 2:24).

God created humans to fill the earth and rule the earth (Genesis 1:28). To do this in an orderly way, God has given humans a conscience (see 1.6) and three institutions: marriage, government, and church.

This is God's formal inauguration of marriage.

God established marriage as something new and special, moving beyond the raw sex of animals to the tender sex of people in love, with lifetime commitment, for raising families of godly people.

Mother of all the living

'Adam named his wife Eve [means 'living'] because she would become the mother of all the living' (Genesis 3:20).

The term 'mother of all the living' implies that there must be other kinds of mothers, such as 'mother of all the dying.'

This verse does not say mother of all humankind, but mother (first) of a particular category of humankind.

Consider these clues from other Bible statements:

  • Adam was 'placed' (not 'created') in the Garden of Eden. He was probably a grown man born to a woman outside of the Garden.
  • God decided to give Adam a helper, but 'no suitable helper was found.' This implies that there were other woman where Adam came from.
  • When Adam was first introduced to the woman God made for him – a female clone of his own body – Adam said 'she shall be called woman' (female, child-bearer). If he had not seen women who already existed outside of the Garden, he would not have known about human sexuality and would not have recognized immediately that she could bear children.
  • When God pronounced punishment for Eve's sin, He said he would 'multiply' (or 'increase' in some translations) her pain in childbirth. It would make no sense to heighten the pain of childbirth if childbirth had never yet happened. God's pronouncement is specifically to Eve, without any mention of future generations, so it seems to mean that Eve will experience birthing pain much more acutely than women who preceded her.
  • Eve's first-born son moved to another region. He asked God to protect him from being killed by other people on the way. He traveled to a city, where he married a woman and became a builder in that city.

These clues, and more, are discussed in detail in the Bible study here on People before Adam.

God wanted to start a new line of people – spiritual people – so He created Eve to be mother of all people who have access to eternal life.

Eve was specially created (the first recorded miracle) to be the first female to have a personal encounter with God and to start a new line of people ('the living') who would not be subject to death. Her line of descendants is traced through the Old Testament patriarchs directly to Jesus and start of the church.

WHO SINNED FIRST?

Eve ate first, but Adam rebelled first

Eve was first to eat the forbidden fruit

In a cursory read of this story, it seems that Eve sinned first. '... she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it' (Genesis 3:6).

And Satan sinned before Eve, by telling lies about God. Furthermore, millions of people had lived and died on earth before Eve sinned; certainly they weren't all perfect.

So why does Romans 5:12 – the key verse supporting the doctrine of original sin – say that '... sin entered the world through one man [Adam] ...?' Why do Christians say that Adam was the first sinner?

The biblical answer is found interwoven in the entire Romans 5:12-19 passage, which is the only portion of scripture that deals with this subject. That passage requires much more than a quick read. See Bible study here on Romans 5.

Adam wanted to be his own god

From that study in Romans 5 we learn that God's justice and judgment takes into account the kind of spiritual revelation a person has received. People will be judged according to the light given to them, which varies from time to time, place to place, person to person.

'And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression' (1 Timothy 2:13–14). Adam knew full well what he was doing. Eve was confused.

Adam was the first person who had a personal encounter with God ... received an unmistakably clear rule (law) directly from God ... and deliberately chose to defy God by trying to become his own god. That crossed the line, beyond ordinary misdeeds and misunderstandings.

Adam's sin – called the 'trespass' in Romans 5 – was much more than eating forbidden fruit. It was the first human rebellion against God's law – a deliberate attempt to take God's place – and the sin happened in his mind even before his overt action.

FRAMEWORK: MAJOR THEMES

Introduction to basic theology

Major themes of the story

The story of Adam and Eve in the Garden is the oldest story in the world and is an introduction to major themes in the Bible, outlined here but examined in detail in Bible studies throughout this site.

  • GOD'S WORLD. Adam existed outside of the Garden, then God moved him into the Garden to take care of it.
  • LAW. God gave the first ever divine command (law) to a human, very simple: Don't eat fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Upon receiving a command from God, man became a moral creature – subject to right and wrong, good and evil – and subject to punishment for disobedience. This was the first covenant law: 'You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.' (Genesis 2:16-17).
  • PERSONAL DECISIONS. Talk with God. Choices. Lost opportunity for eternal life.
  • TEMPTATION. Satan (in form of a snake) told Adam and Eve that the reason God didn't want them to eat from the tree is that, if they did, they would become like God, knowing good and evil.
  • SIN. Eve liked the idea of becoming like God, and she ate fruit from the tree. Adam liked the idea too because he didn't stop her, and he ate the fruit she offered to him. Desire for other gods.
  • EXCUSES. When confronted by God for this sin, Adam excused it by saying that Eve ('the woman you put here with me') handed him the fruit. Eve excused it by saying that Satan deceived her. The excuses were inadequate. Adam and Eve had each made their own personal and deliberate choice to disobey God and try to become like Him.
  • JUDGMENT. God's punishment was eviction from the Garden, putting them on the outside where life is difficult ('pains in childbearing ... painful toil ... thorns and thistles ... sweat of your brow ...'). (Genesis 2:14-19) 'Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves ... and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden' (Genesis 3:7-8). They were now exposed to God's punishment for the worst sin, ignoring God and wanting to be their own god.
  • PUNISHMENT. Satan, Eve and Adam were given punishment commensurate to their sin. Greatest punishment for Adam and Eve was losing opportunity for eternal life.
  • WORK. God gave Adam his first job: name all the animals and birds in the Garden. Humans were created to rule the earth, and naming is the first step in ruling. Apparently Adam followed instructions and did the job well. 'But for Adam no suitable helper was found' (Genesis 2:20). There was no spiritual woman, so God created one. Even work in Garden.
  • INSTITUTIONS. In Eden God established marriage, the first of three institutions for ruling (order instead of chaos): marriage, government and church.
  • JESUS. God cursed Satan and said to him, 'I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, he will crush your head and you will strike his heel.' (Genesis 3:15) This is a prophetic statement. Eve gave birth to Seth who we now know is in the direct family line of Jesus. Satan will harm Eve's offspring, Jesus ('strike his heel'), at the crucifixion approximately 1,400 year later, but Jesus will ultimately destroy Satan ('crush your head').
  • CHOSEN PEOPLE. God chooses to reveal himself personally, and to offer eternal life, to some people but not to others. There were probably people before Adam who never had any personal encounter with God and never received any law from God. After Adam, when there was no access to the Tree of Life for anyone, there was a period of about 2,500 years, to the best of our knowledge from scripture, before God chose a special people, led by Moses, and gave spiritual law to them.
  • ETERNAL LIFE. There were two trees in the center of the Garden: (1) the tree of life and (2) the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The first was the possibility of eternal life. The second precluded the possibility of eternal life.

MORE QUESTIONS

Bible credibility and Christian witness

NEXT ►
 Jesus didn't teach original sin

Was Adam doomed to hell?

Did he really have a choice?

Predestination question.

First priest

Adam was first priest.
Two key points: One God (no idolatry), marriage (no promiscuous sex). Same two in Council of Jerusalem. Same two today.

Was he ever forgiven?

Bible doesn't say, but some clues. No other act of disobedience is mentioned.

Adam's children made offerings to God. Probably a family matter, learned from God, passed on to children.

God understands, forgives. Live and learn.

SITE IN EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT
Helping Christians engage in intelligent and persuasive conversations with doubters and unbelievers