Topic 1.3
People before Adam
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Helping Christians engage in intelligent and persuasive conversations with doubters and unbelievers
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People before Adam

Prehistoric life before 4000 BC
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Questions
Answered here from the Bible

🟥  Was Adam was the first person on earth?

🟥  What's the explanation for cities older than Adam now being discovered?

🟥  Was the world a perfect paradise – not even any death – before Adam sinned?

🟥  Do we have to choose between Bible and science?

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Discovery
See what the Bible actually says
This Discovery section searches the Bible for answers to questions above and provides information for intelligent and persuasive conversations with doubters and unbelievers

Bible doesn't explicitly say Adam was first human

Genesis 1:27 says, 'God created man [generic] in his own image, male and female he created them.'

In the next chapter, Genesis 2:8 says, 'Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man [individual] he had formed.'

Thousands of years could have elapsed between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, and the Bible specifically says that Adam was not created in the Garden of Eden as most traditional Christians believe.

The Bible does not compel an interpretation that makes Adam the first human. Adam was the first sinner (see 1.4) but not necessarily the first person.

Topic is threatening

Many traditional Christians – and their leaders and institutions – are threatened by discussion about people who lived before Adam because it could disrupt some long-held church doctrines:

Age of earth and six-day creation

Perfect world, and no death, before Adam's sin

Original sin (every human born guilty because of Adam's sin)

However, the issue can no longer be ignored in light of all that archaeology has uncovered in the past fifty years. The evidence is now overwhelming that there was human activity on earth long before 4000 BC.

Big picture

Most traditional Christians have a limited view of earth's history and focus almost entirely on events in the Mediterranean and European regions during the past four thousand years.

It is helpful to step back and look at the long global picture.

From God's perspective, as summarized in the chart below, humans came on the earth a second ago! God just now completed the sixth day of creation and began his pause mode (seventh day) to let humans exercise free will and rule the earth.

To aid comprehension ...
Shrink all time into one day
(composite from all branches of science)
IF ALL TIMEsince beginning of the universe could be shrunk proportionately into a single day, this is what it would look like:
  • 12:00 AM | Big Bang
  • 4:20 PM  | Earth formed
  • 5:00 PM  | Organic life
  • 11:08 PM | Fish and birds
  • 11:23 PM  | Dinosaurs
  • 11:39 PM  | Mammals
  • 11:59:58 PM  | Hominins
  • 11:59:59 PM  | Humans  
Calculations
It's as if humans came on the scene ONE SECOND ago!
PIVOT POINT
ABOUT 4000 BC
4000 BC appears to be a time of major change on earth, a pivot point when the whole order of life takes a new direction:

CIVILIZATION. Primitive cultures were becoming civilized with farming, ranching, mining, specialization of labor, small-scale manufacturing and trade about 4000 BC. This was a time of synergy as people began learning and working together in community. Populations were becoming centralized with construction projects and governments extending human control over nature and people.

WRITTEN LANGUAGE. Written language systems began surfacing about 4000 BC. This was a huge advance over the drawings and symbols previously carved or painted on cave walls. This was the start of historical records to document events as they occur and to survive millenniums of time. Written language was a way to share and preserve technical knowledge. Communication became more precise and nuanced.

GOD REVEALS HIMSELF TO MAN. After billions of years of preparation, something astounding happens! The Creator of the universe reveals himself to man and initiates a personal relationship!! The relationship brings a major change to the world – from physical only to physical and spiritual. Now we have God's command, accountability, sin, punishment and offer of eternal life for humans. The events in the Garden of Eden, recorded in the Bible in Genesis 2:8 to 3:24, occurred about 4000 BC according to Bible chronology. This is all covered in Topic 4.

TABLE ABOVE gives perspective for the number of people alive at time of Adam and at various times ever since. Experts who study populations from ancient to modern estimate that more than 100 billion people have already lived on earth.

Two facts stand out:

How few Jews (Israelites, descendants of Jacob) there ever were in the world, with over-size influence, and

How Jewish percentage of the world's population is shrinking rapidly (now only two-tenths of one percent, but still over-size influence).

Christians frequently make statements like, 'Before Jesus, people had the law,' which greatly exaggerates the proportion of Jews on earth. Actually, most people before Jesus didn't have the 'law;' they had pagan gods. At time of Jesus birth, only about 1% of the world's population was Jewish.

'Prehistoric' means before written record

The term 'prehistoric' generally refers to the time between appearance of humans but before invention of writing systems.

This period varies between different regions of the world, but generally it is in the range of 40,000 BC > 4,000 BC. Even 'prehistoric' is part of the last second of the day if all time since the Big Bang were compressed proportionately into a single day (see calculations above).

Adam lived about 4000 BC

THE WAY WE KNOW when Adam lived is by studying genealogies detailed in the Bible. For some people, actual age at death is given in scripture and for others average life spans at that time are applied, but the fathers' names in the family tree are very clear.


The Bible gives three genealogies: (1) from Adam to David, (2) from David to Jesus in Joseph's line, and (3) from David to Jesus in Mary's line.

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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

about people before Adam

I Corinthians 15: 'First man Adam'

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written, 'The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam [Jesus], a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual' (15:44-46). This is the Bible passage people use most often to 'prove' that there were no people before Adam, but that's not what this scripture actually says.

This is a comparison between Adam and Jesus on the spiritual level. This juxtaposition states simply that Adam was first and Jesus was last. For what? We know this is not speaking about physical life because people lived after Jesus; i.e., Jesus obviously was not last to live physically. So just as there are people who lived AFTER Jesus, likewise there may have been people who lived BEFORE Adam.

The context and words – 'there is also a spiritual body – make it clear that this is not about the natural being, but about the spiritual being, which this passage says comes after the natural. Adam was the first spiritual man ... the first to have a personal relationship with God, a command from God and an offer of eternal life from God.

This passage does not say that Adam was the first human on earth, only that he was the first spiritual human on earth, the first person to have a personal encounter with God and the first person to be offered eternal life.

Romans 5: 'Death through sin'

'Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned ...' (5:12). This Bible passage is quoted often to 'prove' that Adam is the first man on earth, but that's not what this scripture actually says.

This verse says only that sin entered the world 'through Adam,' the first sinner, not because Adam sinned but 'because all sinned.'

Thousands of years could have elapsed between God's creation of humans in Genesis 1 and Adam's sin in Genesis 2.

Romans 5 implies that there were people before Adam: '... before the law was given [do not eat from Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil], sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law' (5:13).

This passage does not say that Adam was the first human on earth, only that he was the first sinner. Now it's no longer just physical death for mankind, but 'death through sin' (resurrection, judgment, hell and then final death). A moral and spiritual dimension has been added.

Romans 5 is studied in depth in Topic 1.4.3.

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 Genesis 1: God created mankind

'So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them' (1:27). People assume that 'man' was a person named Adam, but the passage does not say it. The original Hebrew word is ’ā·ḏām, meaning 'mankind.' The verse says only that God created human beings.

Thousands of years could have elapsed between the creation of humans in Genesis 1 and the story of Adam and Eve in Genesis 2.

Chapter and verse divisions in the Bible are man-made for citation convenience, not part of the original manuscripts. In the origional Hebrew, all text runs together continuously without markings.

When the beginning of Chapter 2 is instead marked at Genesis 2:8, the whole story of Adam and Eve reads differently. Everything prior to that verse is about God's original creation (Days 1-6), detail and summary. Everything after that verse (present Day 7) is about how God first revealed himself personally to mankind and gave the first simple law.

Geneticists say that new species never begin and survive from a single male-female pair but rather from a gene pool within a population. The phrase 'male and female he created THEM' allows for the possibility that God may have initially created many humans at the same time.

Genesis 2: No suitable helper found

Adam was not created in the Garden of Eden but placed there from the outside. 'The Lord God took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it' (2:8). Adam began the work as God directed. 'But for Adam no suitable helper was found' (2:20).

The phrase 'no suitable helper was found' implies that women already existed (outside the Garden, from where Adam came) but were not suitable (spiritual), so God created a special spiritual woman for Adam, to start a new line of people with access to eternal life.

Genesis 4: Eve 'mother of all living'

'Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living' (3:20). This is the commonly quoted wording, from the New International Version (NIV), but a more accurate translation – used in most Bible translations of this passage – is 'she WAS mother of all living' (title she already had, given to her before pregnancy with first child).

Eve could not be the literal 'mother of all living' unless she were also the mother of Adam, but he was alive outside the Garden before she even existed.

This name was given to Eve by Adam in Genesis 4 after the punishment and spiritual understanding received in Genesis 3. 'Eve' comes from the Hebrew root chaiah which means to be alive. Perhaps the name signifies that she was the first woman – like Adam was the first man – to start a new line of people with access to eternal life.

Genesis 1-2: Childbearing

When God presented Eve to Adam (Genesis 2:23), Adam said, 'she shall be called woman (female, mother).' Adam was able to recognize a female at first sight – apparently had seen women before – and knew immediately that she could be a mother.

As punishment for Eve's sin, God said: 'I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children' (Genesis 3:16). God said this to Eve before she had children. It would be meaningless for God to say that he will 'increase' the pains of childbearing if there had never been any childbearing anywhere on earth.

Genesis 4: Farmer, rancher and builder

Adam's first-born son, Cain, was a farmer. His second-born child, Abel, was a rancher:

'Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, while Cain was a tiller of the soil. So in the course of time, Cain brought some of the fruit of the soil as an offering to the LORD, while Abel brought the best portions of the firstborn of his flock.' – Genesis 4:3-4

History and archeology reveal a common picture of ancient peoples throughout the world. At first they were hunter-gatherers, moving from place to place, always searching for better food supply. Over long periods of time, people learned how to process seeds, clear ground and plant crops ... and how to domesticate sheep, goats and pigs for reproduction and slaughter.

If Adam were the first person on earth, then Cain and Abel were the first two humans ever born. It is highly improbable that they could have achieved this level of sophisticated specialized labor so quickly, before their next sibling was born (Genesis 4:25) and before Cain was married (Genesis 4:16-18). It is likely that they learned farming and ranching from he experiences of generations of other people in the area after they were evicted from the Garden of Eden (Genesis 4:13-16).

Genesis 4: Cain's wife and city

Adam and Eve's first son, Cain, murdered his brother, Abel, and then this happened:

[Lord God speaking] 'Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground ... You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.'

'Cain said to the Lord, 'My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from the land and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on earth and whoever finds me will kill me.'

'But the Lord said to him, 'Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over.' Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. So Cain went out from the Lord's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

'Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.' – Genesis 4:10-17

At that point in time, when life was raw and perilous, other people would have had to exist because it would be impossible to survive as a lone 'restless wanderer on earth' without human assistance of any kind.

Cain was worried that 'whoever finds me will kill me.' Cain was Adam and Eve's first son, but he knew there were already dangerous people out there.

Cain went to a distant land, married a woman and became a builder in a city. Starting from nothing, it takes thousands of years for humans to develop understanding, language, tools and skills to build cities. Cain, Adam and Eve's first child, joined a civilization already in existence and changed career from farmer to builder.

Genesis 2:8: Adam lived in our Day 7

The Bible says that God created the universe in six 'days' (or periods). Mankind (Hebrew ’ā·ḏām) was created in Day 6: 'male and female he created them' (Genesis 1:27). But the account of the Garden of Eden (starting Genesis 2:8) is in Day 7, which is God's day of 'resting' (pausing) in new physical creations, the day that is still open, the day in which a man named Adam was placed in the Garden (see 1.2 and 1.2.1). We are still in Day 7, continuing until God resumes by creating a new heaven and a new earth. There could have been countless numbers of people early in Day 7 before God revealed himself to Adam.

Acts 17:20: Every nation from one man

[Apostle Paul speaking to civic leaders in Athens] 'From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.'

This statement does not align with the preceding verses about people preceding Adam, but it does align with the biblical account of Noah, who lived approximately one thousand years after Adam per genealogy in Genesis 10:1-32.

It is unlikely that the Athenians knew anything about either Adam or Noah, so possibly Paul was just saying that everyone – even the whole mighty Roman empire – can be traced back to the marvelous creation of mankind by the God [the 'unknown god'] he is proclaiming: The God who made the world and everything in it ... so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him ... For in him we live and move and have our being. As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring' (v 24-28).

WHAT HISTORY AND SCIENCE SAY

about people before Adam

Archaeology and history
Population experts estimate that the world's population in 4000 BC was about 7,000,000, as shown in the chart above.
Archaeologists are now unearthing many cities that existed at that time. Today we can see many of the amazing settlements that thrived in the general area of the Garden of Eden – Mesopotamia – evidence of transition from settled villages to urban cities before 4000 BC.
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An example is Catalhoyak, Turkey. The city was built in stages between 7400 BC and 5200 BC. The stratigraphy of 18 settlement layers (over a 2,000 year span) shows its development, reshaping and expansion. The city is so huge and tightly packed – covering 37 acres – that only 5% has been excavated so far (160 buildings) after 60 years of digging. The estimated population was 3,000 - 8,000 people.
ANCIENT CITY
Catalhoyak, Turkey – Built long before Adam lived

Similarly, the biblical city of Jericho, Palestine, was founded approximately 10000 BC and had already been in existence for about 6,000 years before Adam. Archaeologists have unearthed the remains of more than 20 successive settlements on that site. Bodies of the dead have been found buried under the floors of homes and in the remains of abandoned buildings. Put into perspective, Adam's life was the mid-point between the founding of Jericho and today!

There are more than a dozen scientific methods used for determining dates of bones, artifacts and man-made structures being uncovered by archaeologists. See 1.3.4 for information about modern scientific dating methods. Cross-validation can now be done on the same object with various testing methods.

Some people say that scientific dating is irrelevant because God could have created the universe with 'apparent age' (everything just looks old). See 1.2.3 for why this is a flawed argument.

Analysis of human fossils

Archaeologists have unearthed thousands of fossils that look similar to modern humans, most called hominids, some dating back several millions of years ago. (For perspective, dinosaurs vanished from the earth about 63 million years ago).

All human remains dated to the holocene period (approximately 10000 BC to present) are classified by scientists as homo sapiens (modern humans). The fossil evidence keeps growing and scientific testing methods keep improving, and now there is overwhelming evidence that there were human beings on earth long before Adam.

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Migrations and DNA

By the time Jesus was born – sometime between 6 BC and 4 BC – every major part of every continent on earth was populated, with population totaling about 250 million people. If Adam were the first human, that means that all the original world-wide human migrations would have had to occur within a span of less than 4000 years ... starting from nothing ... no history or knowledge of the world ... no tools or skills ... brutally hard conditions ...

With reluctance to move unless forced by climate or enemies, and facing almost unimaginable perils and adjustments, including sailing the oceans and crossing frozen land bridges, these migrations would have taken much longer than a few thousand years.

Scientists once had to reconstruct humanity's distant past only from ancient settlements, bones and artifacts, but now DNA and RNA are powerful new ways to read genetic code of our early ancestors.

The DNA of thousands of skeletons of people who lived 2,000 to 12,000 years ago have been sequenced and analyzed by computer to show migration patterns and times, showing beyond doubt that there were humans moving throughout the earth prior to 4000 BC (before Adam).

FIVE REASONS

for believing humans existed before Adam

✓ REASON 1. Old Testament evidence
Nowhere does the Old Testament specifically say that Adam was the first human being. It is silent about people before Adam except that there are some clues in the first four chapters of Genesis.
God's words to Adam assume that Adam already knew about death and sexuality ... when Adam's first-born son (Cain) murdered Adam's second-born son (Abel), they already had specialized knowledge of agricultural and husbandry, probably acquired knowledge from generations of farmers and ranchers outside of the Garden ... when God pronounced punishment for the murder (banishment to be a wanderer), Cain pleaded with God to protect him from people in other regions who might kill him ... Cain went to another region and married a wife ... Cain became a builder in a city.
✓  REASON 2. New Testament silence
Nowhere does the The New Testament specifically say that Adam was the first human being.
Neither Jesus nor the Apostles (except Paul) even mention Adam's name. Paul makes brief mention of him in I Corinthians 15 and Romans 5 but does not specifically say that he was the first human being, only that he was the first sinner.
When the Bible is silent, we are free to follow evidence wherever it leads.
✓  REASON 3. Archaeology
Archaeologists have unearthed many cities that are much older than Adam. By time of Adam, some cities already had thousands of inhabitants. The archaeological finds yield not only objects by also rich history and timelines.
✓  REASON 4. Human fossils
There are now many scientific methods for testing age. Confidence is gained when different methods (chemical, radiological, stratigraphical, dendrochronological, DNA, etc.) all converge in the same age range. Human fossils (homo sapiens) have been found which date to thousands of years prior to Adam.
✓  REASON 5. DNA and migrations
The DNA of hundreds of ancient human skeletons have been sequenced and analyzed, and migration patterns plotted, to show beyond doubt that people were traversing the earth prior to 4000 BC (before Adam).

WHY DOES IT MATTER?

hindrance to mission

The purpose of making a case for some intetrpretation in the blue area is not to change anyone's mind. The purpose to help Christians from being so dogmatic on secondary issues that they drive unbelievers away from the major issues.

The purpose is to make Christians aware that there are other interpretations – solidly Bible-based and documented –

Not asking anyone to change.

Just making the case.

Arrogance.

Acknowledge there may be another way. Not dogmatic.

Modern world

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Bible cannot be relevant in people's lives if they do not believe it. We shouldn't add things to the Bible that create barriers to belief.

Articulate.

Tyranny of tradition

Jesus said our mission is to 'make disciples,' but many Christians – perhaps most – are more concerned about creating and protecting tradition. In many ways, tradition has become more powerful than the words of the Bible.

2500 denominations

Barriers to faith.

Makes people dogmatic on issues of secondary importance.

it might be helpful to discuss how some Christians interpret scripture in a way that does not collide with the person's objections.

Purpose is persuasive conversation

The purpose of making a case for some intetrpretation in the blue area is not to change anyone's mind. The purpose to help Christians from being so dogmatic on secondary issues that they drive unbelievers away from the major issues.

The purpose is to make Christians aware that there are other interpretations – solidly Bible-based and documented –

Need heading

Romans 5:12-21 is the primary Bible text used to create the doctrine of original sin (yellow believe-it box at top of page).

Almost everyone who believe in original sin believes it because that's what was taught, but very few people read the Bible to see for themselves if it's really there.

It's a horrific doctrine and turns many people away from God because it is so inconsistent with the Christian claim that God is loving and just.

We should not believe, or disbelieve, any doctrine just because it is convenient or comfortable, but because of what the Bible really says.

Theologians

Tendency to add things not there. To make things convoluted and complex.


STREET INTERVIEWS

what people are thinking

Fighting with science

Most Christians reason like this: No one ever asks me what the Bible says about age of the earth or about evolution ... so these issues can't be important. People just need to know that the Bible says they need Jesus as Savior.

The fact that doubters and unbelievers rarely ask Christians about these issues doesn't mean that they don't think about them. And when they think about them, they are usually turned off by explanations given by Christians that are contrary to the facts of science.

Sadly, the Bible has lost so much credibility that most people today don't read it or believe what it says, largely because of Christians who have made the Bible say things it really doesn't say.
Interviewers went on the street and asked random people what they think about human origin
Their answers are very informative for Christians who want to engage doubters and unbelievers in spiritual conversation.
Watch video clips below

Within many religious groups, science has been portrayed as an enemy, and people have been told that they must make a choice between the Bible and science, as though the two are opposed to each other.

The Bible and science both seek truth, and there is only one truth. Science is just the discovery of the physical laws that control God's awesome creation. God allows us to learn more and more about these laws every year – and find new applications for them – as they build upon each other at exponential speed.

People who don't believe the Bible often think that Bible-believing Christians are either not well informed or are simple minded, and they don't want to say things that would cause embarrassment or offense to their Christian friends. So they're silent, unless asked.

To get a sense of it, listen to what random people on the street in Minneapolis said when asked about human origin. Tap below for Video #3 Street Interviews:

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On-street perception of the Bible today

These responses from random interviews with young people as we hear and see from their own words and emotions in this video express the post-Christian attitude toward the Bible:

They have little or no Bible knowledge or respect.

They don't perceive the Bible as trustworthy or as a message from God; most don't know who wrote the Bible or how we got it.

They don't think about the Bible in terms of sin and need for a Savior.

They regard the Bible as a book of choice, an ancient collection of stories for some religious people who still find comfort in it.

They believe the main message of the Bible is to be good to people.

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Only when ignorance, in the name of science, tries to be wiser than what scripture say, is when Gods Word is twisted, unto their own destruction
I don't think I believe this
No scripture to back up your words.
Pure sophistry for the purpose of setting aside the claims of God upon us.
About time!
The Bible tells us what we need to know. Why probe into something else? God said it. That is enough for me.
Had to be people here before Adam, all the ancient buildings prove the civilizations were here. Many teens of thousands of years.
Humans were around a lot longer the 4000 bc. Thats not even as old as Sumer the first proven civilization. Evidence strongly supports that civilization may have existed long before Sumer.
I will read this in its entirety. What I've read so far is right on according to my extensive studies over 27 years.
You have an interesting take on how to reconcile the time difference challenge between Bible time history & archeology . I don’t think it will matter about which time viewpoint ya right. What matters is faith & trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sin & gaining eternal life
As much nonsense and stupidity as I have heard since big bang or evolution.
I don’t think Adam was the first human on earth. I am 72 in age. Most people my age and older do not have this perception. But from my bible study I believe this Genesis points to others.
Just another Satanic attempt to change God's WORD. More likely made up of Liberal Kids that don't know any better.
Excellent
Of course. If Adam and Eve were the only humans and had children, who did the children copulate with? If it was each other, then everyone would have mental defects. The Adam & Eve story is just the beginning of the Old Testament.
Just happened upon this site and wow! This is fabulous. I will be back. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us all. God bless you and your family.
Common sense
B.S.
Unbelievable. Was man there at the beginning to make this determination. No. The human race is so arrogant and ignorant.
Interesting topics. The bible is good for salvation but not for earth history
Trying to reinterpret the Bible according to man’s interpretations that are based on unprovable assumptions destroys the authority of the Bible. God was there. Man was not.
Thank you for this.It helps me understand my youngest grandchild(age 31). Also this affirms my teaching as a science teacher and pastor.
Do you offer a textbook?
False teaching. Repent
Fascinating to think about. Here is something also to absorb. Let Us make man in Our image. Who is Us? Why not let Me make man in my image. Sounds plural to me. Thank you for the compelling argument Adam is not the first man:)
Excellent reading
Wrong all wrong
Scientists make mistakes, and when the scientists' beliefs don't match the Bible then God's word, the Bible, is right, and the scientists are wrong.
You guys are doing an incredible job of bringing science The Bible together as one truth thank you Please continue this valuable work to awaken the public that the Bible and science are truly God's truth not contradicting each other
I like it! I always wondered about the dinosaurs, and whether other people lived before Adam. You see, the Bible says that Cain was worried about being slain by other people. So, what does that tell you? It's more to the Bible than some clergymen are letting on.
Yes there were people before Adam, the cave Men and the ice Age.
Beautifully done and very reasonable. I’ve been struggling with the contradictions in the Bible and science for years. I believe that there is a God but I wasn’t always sure if the Bible Was Gods word or man made. Thank you! Makes so much sense!
By observing ruins etc firsthand, my personal opinion is that man existed before Adam. Adam was the first God breathed His Spirit into.
Much of what you share are things that have been revealed to me by the Spirit of God. Finally your site is out and does not counter Biblical script and does not hinder the Christian witness. Thank God.
Some scientists are open to intelligent design, the problem is some scientists think they are trying to bring church into the classroom.If some scientists find out that some believe in intelligent design they will lose funding.
This is from the devil. The Bible says Satan is a liar and the creater of it. This is a lie created by Satan to deceive people. Adam was the first man and the first sinner. His sin is what started death.
Either believe the world or believe God. We cannot have both.
Loved it. Been saying it for years but nobody listened.
I appreciate this study.
Does the bible really say humans will burn forever in hell or is it really more like thrown in the fire and destroyed? Ps I already know the answer!
Rational Evangelicals. Exellent.
Death and suffering had not taken place until the original sin, so no one was before Adam.
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All present dating methods are based on assumptions that cannot be proven. The methods do not meet scientific requirements of being observable, repeatable, and testable. They can reliable determine chemical compositions, but they CANNOT reliably give age..
You are right. Remember God said to the legions of Angels. Lets create a man on our own image so God created a man just like him.
Adam was the first person on this earth bottom line
The big bang is a theory. God is a fact.
Thank you I knew about these things but I did not understand
Fully embrace this information. By the Spirit I have been convinced before reading this. Any serious thinker who is honest and observant will become agnostic in trying to remain with the ultra conservative ideas of literal six day creation. What a beautiful creation was being made by a glorious intelligent designer!
2nd law of thermodynamics disproves big bang & evolution.
I agree there had to have been other people before Adam. The sons had children, with whom? Certainly not with their own mother or the gene pool would have died out.
Interesting and thought provoking, following a line of thinking that has interested me for years. To question traditional interpretation doesn't detract from the validity and power of scripture but reinforces it. Jesus was rejected by the religious experts of His day because He didn't fit the traditional interpreting of scripture. We still have much to learn.
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Summary
People before Adam

🟩  Adam was not the first human. The Bible says that Adam was in he Garden of Eden about 4000 BC. Archaeologist have found people and cities that existed long before that time.

🟩  There was death before Adam. Therefore, Adam's sin is not the cause of death on earth (studied in depth in Topic 1.3.2).

🟩  Adam was the first sinner. He was the first person to have a personal encounter with God ... first to receive a commandment from God ... first to receive an offer of eternal life from God ... first to rebel against God ... first in a new line of spiritual people subject to accountability and punishment from God (studied in depth in Topic 1.4).

🟩  Christians should not engage in needless battles by insisting that no one lived and died on earth prior to Adam (about 4000 BC). That position makes Christians look ignorant and is not a position compelled by scripture. It breaks trust in the Bible and repels people from the gospel.

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