Topic 1.4
Garden of Eden
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Garden of Eden

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Questions
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🟩  What was Adam's sin?

🟩  Was the earth originally a perfect paradise?

🟩  Were Adam and Eve the first humans?

🟩  Did Adam's sin cause all death on earth?

🟩  Is everyone guilty of Adam's sin?

🟩  Will people burn in hell forever because of Adam's sin?

Christians should be prepared to give doubters and unbelievers clear, intelligent and persuasive answers to these questions. Answer from the Bible, not from tradition. Prepare here.
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Well-known story

Almost everyone in the United States has heard something about the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. It's just a fanciful tale to most people outside of church, often referenced with sensual overtones and mockery.

Most people – even Christians – don't know the full story as told in the Bible. Most have never read it carefully themselves and cannot speak with confidence about it.

In both church culture and popular culture, so much has been added to the story that it hardly resembles what the Bible really says.

The purpose of this Bible study is to help Christians understand and explain from scripture the full Garden of Eden story and the theology learned from it.

This will help Christians recognize the add-ons that theologians and religious groups have appended to the story over the centuries.

Man's first encounter with God

God comes to earth and initiates a personal relationship with humans!

He chose one man – Adam – to receive the first law and accountability ... to move beyond physical life to spiritual life, even the possibility of eternal life.

Man had never personally encountered God before, and now a whole new quality and dimension were added to human existence.

Four thousand years later, God would physically come to earth again in the person of Jesus Christ and initiate an even more intimate relationship between God and man and make eternal life freely available to everyone everywhere.

Even today, for reasons we don't understand, God chooses to reveal himself to some people but not to others, mostly a consequence of time and place.

The Eden story

The story of the Garden of Eden is told in Genesis 2:8 thru 4:26.

'The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. And the Lord God commanded the man, 'You are free to eat from any tree in the Garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.'' (Genesis 2:15-17).

The Garden of Eden is both a time and a place.

According to Bible genealogy, the time was approximately BC 4000. See chart on a calculation of Bible times.

The Bible says that the Garden of Eden was at or near the headwaters of four named rivers. Even though the names and courses of two of the rivers have changed and are now impossible to identify precisely, it appears that this garden ('special place') was in present-day Iraq (formerly Mesopotamia, known as the cradle of civilization) between the Tigris and Euphrates, near the Persian Gulf.

See highlights and major themes of the story in the overview of the Eden story.

See answers to frequently asked questions in Q&A Garden of Eden.

Jews, Christians and Muslims

This Bible study Topic 1.4 is not so much about the story narrative as it is about the theological doctrines which have grown out of the narrative.

Genesis was written about 3,000 years ago. Over time many extraneous concepts have been interwoven into the story so that people now think the Bible says more about Adam and Eve than it actually says about them and the consequences of their sin.

The story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden is foundational theology for Jews, Christians, and Muslims – the 55% of the world who are monotheists.

Many different denominational belief systems have developed from the story.

Derived doctrines

Doctrines are the individual teachings of synagogs, churches, and mosques. All major religious groups have splintered many times over doctrines – and are still splintering today – with each splinter group claiming to have the correct understanding of the scriptures.

The original text of the Eden story is not in question. Everyone agrees on the actual words as written in Hebrew. The differences are only in translation and interpretation of the words and each group's particular stretches and add-ons.

This Bible study – and the supplemental studies linked from this page – display relevant scripture verses on four major theological questions, all arising from the Eden story, that have become barriers to faith for doubters and unbelievers.

Most Bible studies elsewhere use the fill-in-the-blanks method to affirm what members of the group already believe ... to make sure desired answers are given ... and to make everyone feel good by thinking that they have participated in a thorough study.

However, the Bible studies on this site use the Socratic method of study to address troubling issues ... nondenominational ... objectively listening to difficult questions and searching the Bible for answers ... and thinking deeply about putting all together for coherent understanding and presentation to outsiders.

For people today, the doctrinal issues derived from the Eden story are more important than details of the narrative itself.

QUESTION 1

Was the earth a perfect paradise?

Why it matters

The common Christian belief is that the earth was a perfect paradise until Adam sinned by eating forbidden fruit; his sin brought death into the world and ruined God's perfect creation. Christians say this is what the Bible teaches.

It sounds like utter nonsense to doubters and unbelievers and is a major barrier to Christian faith.

Christians believe it because this is what they have been taught by church tradition over the centuries. Most Christians, however, have never personally gone to the Bible to see if this is what the Bible actually says.

Bible doesn't say earth was paradise

Everyone who believes that the earth was originally 'perfect' (from a human perspective) cites one verse as authority: 'God saw all that he had made, and it was very good' (Genesis 1:31).

This is the only verse in the entire Bible that speaks directly to the subject. A few other tangent verses are sometimes mentioned, but they don't say the earth was perfect; see Bible study here on Romans 5 and I Corinthians 15.

So from two words – 'very good' – a theological concept was developed by early church fathers which say that the earth was a perfect paradise until Adam sinned ... no discomfort, no problems, no illness, no death. But that's a stretch and add-on to what Genesis 1:31 actually says.

The verse says simply that God was very pleased with His creation. He had a plan. He implemented the plan perfectly. He looked at His physical creation and pronounced it ready to carry out His eternal purposes. That's all those two words say. Anything more is adding to scripture.

There ARE verses in the Bible which tell us that the earth was NOT a 'perfect paradise' as most Christians like to describe it:

  • Genesis 2:15: 'God took the man [Adam] and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.' Work and care would not be needed in a perfect paradise.
  • Genesis 2:18,20: God realized that Adam needed a helper, but 'no suitable helper was found,' so God had to create one. In a perfect paradise, a helper would not be needed, or at least a suitable helper could be found.
  • Genesis 3:1: Satan was already in the Garden sinning by tempting Adam and Eve. A perfect paradise would not have Satan tempting people.
  • Genesis 3:16: The curse on Eve was not to initiate pain in childbirth, but to 'greatly increase' it. Pain had already been present in the world.
  • Genesis 1:12,22,25-26: The land produced and multiplied [past tense continuous] all kinds of vegetation, trees, animals, and 'all the creatures that move upon the ground.' Unrestrained growth causes overcrowding, which is not paradise. Death and decay are necessary to prevent suffocation.
  • I Timothy 5:24: 'God – the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings, the Lord of lords, who alone is immortal ...' If there were no death on earth before Adam sinned, that means that Adam and Eve were once immortal, but this verse and all of scripture says that only God is immortal. Furthermore, it is an oxymoron to say that anything immortal can ever become mortal. If the entire earth were perfect, then Adam and Eve, part of the earth, would have been perfect and unable to be seduced into rebellion against the Creator.

In interpreting scripture, the words of Jesus take precedence over all other words in the Bible. What did Jesus say about Adam ruining the perfect creation? Nothing. Nothing to say because it never happened. It is dogma developed long after Jesus' resurrection and ascension. In fact, there is no record in the Bible of Jesus ever even mentioning Adam's name. If Adam caused such calamity on earth, certainly Jesus would have told us.

Earth has always been a dangerous place

God did not create a static universe but rather a universe of constant change and peril. Physically, our earth is just a tiny part of an unfathomable cosmos that is still expanding and cooling.

We live on a thin crust floating on a gigantic ball of molten rock. Because of curvature, the crust has cracked into pieces (tectonic plates) that collide with each other and reconfigure continents and oceans. The plates thrust up mountains, causing earthquakes and volcanoes.

The earth is rotating daily on an annual orbit around the sun. This movement causes weather conditions of hot and cold, sun and cloud, dry and wet, still and wind.

The weather causes thunderstorms, lightning, fires, droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, monsoons, floods, blizzards, and glaciers.

There are flies and mosquitoes in the air ... sharks and alligators in the water ... wild beasts, snakes, and spiders on the land. Creatures of every kind – even small organisms like bacteria and viruses – create innumerable dangers for us on planet earth.

There is no evidence from the Bible, science, or history that the earth was ever a tranquil paradise without violence and death. This is not God's mistake or shortcoming. This is how God intentionally created earth as the place for phase one of His eternal plan for human beings.

QUESTION 2

Were Adam and Eve the first humans?

Why it matters

The issue here is that Bible genealogies (see genealogy chart) show that Adam lived about BC 4000. If Adam and Eve were the first humans ... and if God created them in the same week He created everything else ... then nothing on earth is older than 6,000 years (or 10,000 years, allowing for possible gaps in the genealogies).

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that the earth is billions of years old and that there has been human activity and migrations for at least 40,000 years. This is taught as settled science in all Universities and schools of every kind, except Christian education.

This sets up a conflict: Either the Bible is right, or science is right, and everyone must choose one or the other. Presented with that stark choice, most people choose science.

If the Bible is wrong about the first humans, they reason, it is probably wrong about other matters too. So increasingly, the Bible is being regarded as an irrelevant ancient book that cannot be trusted, and Christianity in the United States is declining rapidly.

Christians are doing just the opposite of what Jesus told us to do. Our mission is to make disciples (Matthew 28:19). Forcing the stark choice is a major reason why, as share of population, we are losing disciples instead of making disciples.

The purpose of this study is to re-read and re-think the Eden story in light of modern knowledge to see if the Bible really compels the stark choice.

Read Genesis 1-4 as two stories

Most people have been taught in church that Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth, but few have ever seriously studied God's six-day creation and the story of Adam and Eve direct from the Bible.

People just assume that it's a single continuous story, never realizing that it's probably two stories: Creation (Genesis 1:1 thru 2:3) and Eden (Genesis 2:8 thru 3:24), with a summary transition statement (Genesis 2:4-7) and thousands of years in-between.

The creation of humans occurred in Day 6, but the Eden story occurred in Day 7, explained in the Bible study here on God's creation days.  

A 'day' (Hebrew yō·wm), as used in Genesis 1, is longer than 24 hours.

The Genesis 1 creation story tells only that God created humans, male and female, but doesn't mention any individuals or human choices. The Genesis 2-4 Garden of Eden story tells about individuals and choices.

The Bible study here about people before Adam shows that Adam was the first sinner but does not compel a conclusion that he was the first person.

QUESTION 3

Did Adam's sin cause all death on earth?

Why it matters

Bible genealogies say that Adam lived approximately 4,000 BC. Many Christians, perhaps most, believe that the earth was a perfect paradise until the moment he sinned and brought death into the world.

This creates two problems that have become barriers to faith for people outside the church:

PROBLEM 1. This means that nothing on earth died until about 6,000 years ago.

So people are thinking: How can any intelligent person today believe in a book that is totally contrary to what we know to be true, i.e., overwhelming scientific, archeological, and historical evidence that there has been life on earth – living and dying – for millions or billions of years?

PROBLEM 2. This means that God must not be perfect if one man could thwart God's plan and wreck what He created.

So people are thinking: It sounds like a serious design flaw. How could an all-powerful and all-knowing God be blindsided and let such a horrendous thing happen? The Bible must be a fantasy story full of contradictions and cannot be trusted.

The purpose of this Topic 1.4 is to re-read and re-think the Eden story to see if the Bible really says that the earth was perfect and without any death before Adam sinned. Maybe it's Christian traditions – not the Bible – that create these credibility problems and turn people away from the Bible and from Jesus.

Earth has never been immortal

Everything physical is mortal (will cease to exist), even non-living things, including the stars we now observe imploding into black holes. Eventually, the earth itself will die.

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'The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way ...' (2 Peter 3:10-11).

If there were no death before Adam, that would mean God created everything immortal – even Adam – but there is nothing in the Bible to even hint that the earth or any part of it was once immortal. In fact, it's an oxymoron: Immortal means never die, so how can something immortal become mortal?

Human condition

The human condition – the default condition – like the condition of everything else in God's creation, is that eventually, we die. Death is not a design flaw or mistake. God knew exactly what He was doing and what would happen.

Death is a practical necessity to prevent overcrowding and suffocation ... to sustain the food chain ... to enable continuous growth and change ... and to give meaning to eternal life.

Death preceded sin

There is ample evidence that the cycle of life-and-death was functioning on earth long before 4000 BC, the time the Bible says sin first entered the world 'through' Adam (not 'because' of Adam), studied in depth in the Bible study here on original sin and Romans 5.

If there was death on earth before Adam, then Adam's sin cannot be the cause of  death.

Romans 5:12-13 and I Corinthians 15:22 and 15:45-47 are the principal passages of scripture cited for the belief that Adam's sin caused all death. These passages are studied in depth in the Bible study here on sin and cause of death. Upon close examination, these passages don't say what most people seem to think they say.

What about Children? OK, God does something special. What about adult incompetent? Adult never heard. All guilty?

QUESTION 4

Is everyone guilty for Adam's sin?

Why it matters

Most Christians shrug off the unjust horror of original sin by saying that it really doesn't matter because all anyone needs to do is accept Jesus as Savior, and then it's no longer an issue.

The problem is that many people are so repelled by this perception of Christianity that they never get to that point.

Getting it right is not a matter of how original sin affects us, but how it gives other people a wrong understanding of God's character and becomes a serious barrier to faith, contrary to the mission given to us by Jesus.

We should not ascribe to the Bible more than it actually says, especially when stretches and add-ons become turn-offs for doubters and unbelievers.

Original sin

The story of Adam and Eve raises this theological question: Does God ever hold a person guilty for the sin of another?

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How we answer the question here sets the pattern for our understanding of sin and eternal life in all parts the Bible.

A majority of Christians – Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox – have been taught that the full guilt for Adam's sin is placed on every human being and that, without salvation through Jesus, everyone will burn in hell forever because of this imputed guilt, even apart from one's own sin, and even people who never heard of Adam or Jesus.

Everyone, church tradition says, is born guilty and condemned to hell.

This doctrine is known as original sin, inherited sin, transmitted sin, and ancestral sin.

None of these terms appear anywhere in the Bible.

Doctrine developed hundreds of years after Jesus

The doctrine of original sin – that we are all guilty for Adam's sin – was conceived by theologians long after the death of Jesus, the Apostles, and all the New Testament writers.

Jesus taught only that we are guilty of our own sins. There is no record of Jesus ever even mentioning Adam's name.

The doctrine of original sin had its origin in the writings of Tertullian (160-220) and Cyprian (200-258). It was popularized by Augustine (354-430), Luther (1483-1546), and Calvin (1509-1564).

Developed from three verses

The doctrine of original sin was built primarily upon these three verses:

'Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.' (Romans 5:12)
'Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.' (Romans 5:18)
 'For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ will all be made alive.' (I Corinthians 15:21-22)
There are 31,102 verses in the Bible, but these are the three verses upon which the doctrine of original sin was built, a very small biblical footing for such a monstrous doctrine!

Christians talk about original sin as though it is a theme that runs through the Bible. Not so. It rests upon three verses pulled out of a broad context of free will and individual choice.

Even with these verses out of context – read them again! – one has to strain to try to make them say that everyone is guilty of Adam's sin. It's a big stretch, and it's adding to scripture.

If Adam caused a horrific change in God's master plan and basic human nature, we would expect the Bible to contain more than three brief – and questionable – references to such an event that affects the life and destiny of every person ever to live on earth. We would certainly expect Jesus and his twelve Apostles to have said something about it, but they never mentioned Adam or any such catastrophic event.

Proponents of the doctrine of original sin sometimes also cite these additional verses for support, but notice that they don't mention Adam or a catastrophic event:

  • 'Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me' (Psalm 51:5). This verse simply says that King David was born into a sinful world and that his mother, like everyone, was a sinner.
  • 'Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies' (Psalm 58:3). This verse simply says that people have free will and a sinful nature, which become evident at a very early age (obviously not at birth because newborn babies don't spread lies).
  • 'Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath' (Ephesians 2:3). This verse simply says that everyone has a sinful nature (free will to disobey) ... the sinful nature is why we sin ... and we deserve punishment. This doesn't make a case for universal guilt for Adam's sin.

Concept of federal head

Proponents of the doctrine of original sin say that Adam was 'federal head' of the entire human race, the representative who made decisions on behalf of all humankind with binding eternal consequences for every person who ever lives at any time or place on earth.

Nowhere does the Bible say that God appointed Adam to be federal head of the human race. This is conjecture without any biblical support.

Furthermore, nowhere does the Bible say that people are ever individually guilty before God for the sins of their leader, even though they may suffer worldly consequences because of a leader's misdeeds and bad decisions.

'The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father' (Deuteronomy 24:16). 'The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers' (Ezekiel 18:20). The Bible teaches that people will stand before God at the judgment for their own sin, not for the sins of their fathers.

Deep study on original sin

The theologians who constructed the doctrine of original sin did not have any personal interaction with Jesus or his disciples. Hundreds of years had passed. Oral transmission was no longer consistent and trustworthy, so for truth, they studied the same verses in the Bible that we study today.

Now we can study these verses as well – even better – than they could in their day, for reasons explained here at Today we know more.

Proponents of the doctrine of original sin build it primarily on their interpretation of Romans 5:12-21. This passage, and others, are examined verse-by-verse in the Bible study here on original sin.

QUESTION 5

Will people burn in hell forever because of Adam's sin?

Why it matters

People outside of church think that God – if they believe He even exists – must be cruel and unjust to place the most hideous punishment possible on everyone, even newborn babies, for a sin they didn't commit or even know about.

This repulsive image undercuts everything Christians can say about God's love and justice. It portrays God as an angry monster.

People can understand punishment for one's own sins – punishment commensurate with the offense – but original sin is so contrary to love and justice that it can hardly even be imagined.

Being able to die in hell eventually would be an act of mercy ... but torture FOREVER is unimaginable cruelty.

Punishment for sin

Any deep conversation about sin – and original sin in particular – raises the question of punishment.

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The traditional Christian belief is that sinners without salvation through Jesus will be punished by burning in hell, unable to die, for all eternity.

Doubters and unbelievers cannot see any love or justice if all unforgiven sinners are arbitrarily punished the same way, forever, unable to die, especially people who have never even heard about Adam or his sin, or about Jesus and his offer of salvation.

The Bible makes it clear that there is a hell for unforgiven sinners after judgment ... BUT hardly anyone asks where in the Bible it says that people will burn in hell FOREVER. Where does the Bible say THAT?

If anyone responds at all to that question, it is usually with an abbreviated quote from one or more of these six verses:

  • '... into hell, where the fire never goes out' (Matthew 18:18)
  • '... eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels' (Matthew 25:41)
  • '... eternal punishment ...' (Matthew 25:46)
  • '... punishment of eternal fire' (Jude 7)
  • ' ... And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever' (Revelation 14:11, in a dream, referring to people in an age to come 'who worship the beast and its image')
  • 'They will be tormented day and night forever' (Revelation 20:10, in a dream, referring to the devil, the beast, and the false prophet)

However – read carefully! – these verses do not say that any person alive now or in the past will burn in hell FOREVER.

These verses say only that the FIRE (not people) will burn forever (except for some people in a future age, along with Satan and his demons) ... and that the punishment (sentencing) is eternal (final, no hope of any reprieve).

Contrary to burning FOREVER, JESUS SAID clearly that people will eventually die, burn up, be destroyed, consumed, and perish in the everlasting fire prepared for Satan and his demons.

There are 36 verses in the Bible on the subject of punishment and duration in hell. All of the verses are laid out and discussed in the Bible study here on time in hell.

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How it sounds outside of church

There is universal agreement regarding the exact content of all Bible manuscripts as they were originally written in Hebrew and Greek.

But people come to different conclusions about how to translate and interpret the original manuscripts, influenced primarily by the tradition of one's family, friends, and church.

There is a tendency, especially among theologians, to find something new in a passage – making assumptions, stretching meanings, or appending add-ons – to make it say more than it was meant to say.

There are over 2,500 different church denominations, each studying the same Bible, and each believing it has the right view on every theological issue.

Over the centuries, this has resulted in traditions becoming so interwoven with scripture that most people cannot tell the difference.

Most Christians read the Bible for comfort, inspiration, guidance, religious duty, and/or affirmation for what they already believe. Most read the Bible at the surface level through the lens of their own church dogmas, and few study it with an open mind.

Among Christians inside the church, the differences usually don't matter much because the core message is loud and clear: We are sinners in need of Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior, who paid the penalty for our sins by his substitutionary death on the cross and who now offers forgiveness, strength, guidance and eternal life as a free divine gift to all who truly desire it and gratefully accept it.

But among many people outside the church, especially the younger generations, their impression of the Bible is an incoherent jumble of ancient stories, factual distortions, and weird ideas.

For example, consider the following commentary on the four topics discussed on this page.

See how clear Bible teaching becomes intertwined with theological stretches and add-ons.

Even when limited to just the five topics discussed above (Questions 1-5), imagine how the STRETCHED Bible message comes across to doubters and unbelievers:

● BIBLE SAYS: The universe didn't just happen by itself by chance from nothing. It is the result of God's intelligent design and majestic creation.
✗ BIBLE STRETCHED: God created everything in a week of six 24-hour days in the approximate year BC 4000 ... the earth may look old ('apparent age') but nothing is older than 6,000 years ... nothing in the universe existed before that week.
● BIBLE SAYS: Adam was the first human to have a personal encounter with God ... Adam received clear instructions (first spiritual law) from God and became a spiritual being, accountable to God, with opportunity for eternal life ... In Eden, God began a personal relationship with humans and initiated a whole new spiritual dimension to human life ... Adam was the first sinner.
✗ BIBLE STRETCHED: Adam, an immortal human created about BC 4000, was the first person on earth ... there was absolutely no human activity on earth before him.
● BIBLE SAYS: Adam's sin was that he wanted to be his own god, the same fatal sin we struggle with today ... unresolved sin results in punishment and denial of eternal life.
✗ BIBLE STRETCHED: The earth was once a perfect paradise ... one man wrecked God's marvelous creation in a moment ... Adam's sin is the cause of all death ... nothing ever died until about 6,000 years ago.
● BIBLE SAYS: God confronts Adam for his sin ... Adam gives excuses, blaming Eve and Satan ... God holds him personally guilty for violating clear and simple spiritual law.
✗ BIBLE STRETCHED: Adam was 'federal head' of the entire human race, acting on behalf of everyone who would ever live ... so every person is born guilty of Adam's sin and is bound for torment in hell forever because Adam ate forbidden fruit.
● BIBLE SAYS: God will punish people who become their own god or follow other gods ... after physical death, there will be resurrection, judgment, and punishment in hell ... the good news is that forgiveness and salvation is now offered free to everyone through Jesus Christ.
✗ BIBLE STRETCHED: As punishment for what Adam did, God gives people the worst kind of torture imaginable, burning in hell forever, unable to die ... even if they never heard about Adam or Jesus and had nothing to do with the sin for which they are being punished.

Stretches and add-ons

The commentary above illustrates how stretches and add-ons become huge barriers to faith. They seldom clarify. They usually confuse and repel. They destroy confidence in the Bible as a book of truth, make a mockery of God's love and justice, and prevent doubters and unbelievers from wanting Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

Unwittingly, Christians are creating reasons for people to trash God in their minds.

The Christian mission is to 'make disciples' (Matthew 28:19). To strengthen Bible credibility and draw people to Jesus Christ, Christians should be careful not to ascribe to the Bible more than it actually says.
'The heart cannot embrace what the mind cannot accept'
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People's beliefs today are formed less by institutions (government, universities and churches) than by personal investigation.

Personal relationships and believable answers.

Today the Bible has little or no credibility among most Millennials and GenZs – under age 38 – who now comprise the majority of the U.S. population. They are confused by the inconsistency they hear in Christian talk. Christians say, in this example, that God is a loving heavenly father but at the same time portray him as a cruel monster.

If burning in hell forever for someone else's sin is what the Bible actually says, we would have to accept it. But as this study shows, that is NOT what the Bible says!

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Summary
Garden of Eden

🟩  Adam's sin was that he chose to be his own god

Adam believed Satan's lie that, by eating the forbidden fruit, he could become his own god and live forever as he pleased.

🟩  Earth was not a perfect paradise before Adam sinned

There was death on earth before Adam, so Adam's sin was not the cause of all death. And Satan was already at work in the Garden even before Adam sinned. Nothing and no one on earth has ever been immortal.

🟩  There were people before Adam

The Bible show that Adam was in the Garden of Eden about 4000 BC. Archaeologists have found people and cities that existed long before that time.

🟩  Everyone inherits Adam's death, not his guilt

Adam was the first person to have a personal encounter with God ... first to receive a law from God ... first to receive an offer of eternal life from God ... first to rebel against God ... first in a new line of spiritual people subject to accountability and punishment from God. We are guilty for our own sin, but not for Adam's sin.

🟩  Hell is real, but people won't burn in hell forever

Jesus said people will eventually die, burn up, be destroyed, consumed and perish in the everlasting fire prepared for Satan and his demons.

🟩  God is not honored

It dishonors God when Christians perpetuate a false and repulsive impression of His character.

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If for nothing else, this at least may cause someone to dig deeper.
Very good explanation
Your site is great for discussions and other questions about the bible. I hope that it continues.
Unbelievable. Was man there at the beginning to make this determination. No. The human race is so arrogant and ignorant.
Blessings to you!!
Great Information. I've been teaching these studies for some time to hopefully help Christians have a true biblical world view and not just a churchy world view. Glad yall out there.
Scientists lie to us. They lie about the age of the earth.
I like it! I always wondered about the dinosaurs, and whether other people lived before Adam. You see, the Bible says that Cain was worried about being slain by other people. So, what does that tell you? It's more to the Bible than some clergymen are letting on.
Good points
Someone has never had a real encounter with God and does not know the assumptions he is making with the scientific evidence. Sad when you don't know either God or Science
Very interesting. Verification of my own thoughts.
This is the best information a believer can get. Where can I donate. Big Bang is consistent to the Bible, great news. Let’s ge smart about religion. Saying the Bible is wrong has helped millions become non believers. This news can reinforce the beliefs in those who strive to believe but need a more firm and also scientific reasoning for the existence of a God. Great web site!
I can't wait to share this article with my grandson.
Humans were around a lot longer the 4000 bc. Thats not even as old as Sumer the first proven civilization. Evidence strongly supports that civilization may have existed long before Sumer.
Thank you
So far you make a lot of sense, I do believe in God.
The main reason people believe that Adam was the first man is that is what someone told them. It’s man following man and not man reading the Bible for the truths that are in it.
Excellent points here.
I stumbled on your website recently, and was impressed by the scope of it and the balance evident in it.
About time!
praying Gods direction, provision, and anointing on this site and everyone, like me, blessed enough to have been led to it .
Had to be people here before Adam, all the ancient buildings prove the civilizations were here. Many teens of thousands of years.
False teaching. Repent
Just happened upon this site and wow! This is fabulous. I will be back. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us all. God bless you and your family.
You should just go away. You are preaching heresy.
Not sure what to think of this bible study. If nothing else it compels you to really dig deep and think,read and pray for understanding which I think is a good thing.
Please let me know if it is available in a hardcover or paperback book.
Very,very informative! Thank you
The reason the doctrine of original sin arose, was that Augustine couldn't read Greek and there was an inadequacy at certain points in the Latin translation, resulting in a misunderstanding.
Yes to have a intelligence conversation is of most importance.
Adam was the first person on this earth bottom line
Only when ignorance, in the name of science, tries to be wiser than what scripture say, is when Gods Word is twisted, unto their own destruction
2nd law of thermodynamics disproves big bang & evolution.
very well done.!!
I found this to be extremely informative. I'd always had doubts about the "original sin" and being punished for my ancestors sins, but this explained why "original sin" doesn't really exist in a way that resonated with me. Thank you. I will definitely check this site more often.
I now have Biblical support for my belief.
Yes there were people before Adam, the cave Men and the ice Age.
Scientists make mistakes, and when the scientists' beliefs don't match the Bible then God's word, the Bible, is right, and the scientists are wrong.
It's my first visit. Thanks for sharing.
No scripture to back up your words.
By observing ruins etc firsthand, my personal opinion is that man existed before Adam. Adam was the first God breathed His Spirit into.
Bwahahahahaha!!! Religion, please go away and die.
awesome info keep up this good work
Loved it. Been saying it for years but nobody listened.
Death and suffering had not taken place until the original sin, so no one was before Adam.
Much of what you share are things that have been revealed to me by the Spirit of God. Finally your site is out and does not counter Biblical script and does not hinder the Christian witness. Thank God.
Adam was the first man created to have a living soul.
You have an interesting take on how to reconcile the time difference challenge between Bible time history & archeology . I don’t think it will matter about which time viewpoint ya right. What matters is faith & trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sin & gaining eternal life
The big bang is a theory. God is a fact.
Either believe the world or believe God. We cannot have both.
Pure sophistry for the purpose of setting aside the claims of God upon us.
I will read this in its entirety. What I've read so far is right on according to my extensive studies over 27 years.
I don't think I believe this
Dumbest thing I've ever read!
O my how i wish i could find a friend would be willing to discuss the bible openly with me.
With this pandemic going on, I have many of these conversations with myself.
Thank you for this.It helps me understand my youngest grandchild(age 31). Also this affirms my teaching as a science teacher and pastor.
Thank you for the article! There are several nonbelievers in my life that I love deeply. My heart breaks for them. Every time I share my faith, I'm bombarded with science. Perhaps this will help. Thank you. God bless you.
This has certainly opened my mind, I believe in the Bible but could never get a lot of answers to my questions. Thanks
Some scientists are open to intelligent design, the problem is some scientists think they are trying to bring church into the classroom.If some scientists find out that some believe in intelligent design they will lose funding.
Adam was perfect because it doesn’t say anywhere in the Bible that he had body aches and gray .
I want to learn it all.
All bad things on the face of the earth are connected to sin , by one mans sin we were all condemned.
How great it is to have a resource to help in ministering to the sceptical. Thank you. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to upcoming studies.
Thank you for this most interesting discussion of genealogy re: the timing of the first man as relates to both the Bible as well as archaeology!!!
awesome info keep up this good work
Thanks for the analysis
Very insightful
When are more topics coming?
This is a fantastic article , thank you
Fascinating to think about. Here is something also to absorb. Let Us make man in Our image. Who is Us? Why not let Me make man in my image. Sounds plural to me. Thank you for the compelling argument Adam is not the first man:)
An extremely good read.Would like very much to hear more.
I am 75 years old. I was raised as a Roman Catholic. I have studied religions all of my life. I have so many problems with the Bible starting with Genesis. I agree with your assessment that Adam wasn't the first human on earth. The more that I learn, the less I believe in the bible and religion as a salvation. But I shall continue researching.
Interesting and thought provoking.
Interesting topics. The bible is good for salvation but not for earth history
God created everything that was created in six literal days.
This sounds interesting.
Thank you I knew about these things but I did not understand
These explanations make real sense.
Very interesting to read.
Very informative and interesting.
Great work! Keep up the war against the ignorant churchians, and supporting Christian enlightenment!
I really enjoy your site.
This is great, I am going to read more of your topics!
Just another Satanic attempt to change God's WORD. More likely made up of Liberal Kids that don't know any better.
Very interesting
This is from the devil. The Bible says Satan is a liar and the creater of it. This is a lie created by Satan to deceive people. Adam was the first man and the first sinner. His sin is what started death.
All present dating methods are based on assumptions that cannot be proven. The methods do not meet scientific requirements of being observable, repeatable, and testable. They can reliable determine chemical compositions, but they CANNOT reliably give age..
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