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Questions
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🟩 Is there a transcendent Designer/Creator ... or did the universe come into existence and form itself from nothing without any intelligence or power?

🟩 Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

🟩 Does the Bible say that the earth is less than 10,000 years old?

🟩 Is there an inherent conflict between science and the Bible?

🟩 Does belief in an old earth have any effect on the New Testament gospel?

🟩 Why does the beginning even matter?

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Why this is important

With regard to age of the earth, most Christians just shrug off the issue by saying, It doesn't matter to me whether the earth is young or old. It doesn't make any difference.

But this response misses the real issue: It's not about us! It's about them!

Bible credibility is the issue. If the Bible is wrong about age of the earth, doubters and unbelievers can reasonably conclude that it is probably wrong about other matters too and that the Bible cannot be trusted as a book of truth.

Similarly, personal testimony is greatly diminished if others think Christians are uneducated, naive or brain-washed.

It is important to get it right about age of the earth in order to establish respect and influence.

Maybe the subject will never come up in open conversation, but every Christian should be ready if it does. Even if doubters don't raise the issue, they think about it! In some situations, a Christian should raise the issue just to flush out hidden misunderstandings and establish better rapport.

This section gives reasons for believing that God formed the earth over long periods of time ... and that science and the Bible are not in conflict.

FIRST WORDS IN BIBLE

'In the beginning ... '

'IN THE BEGINNING God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the face of the deep, and the spirt of God was hovering over the waters.' – Genesis 1:1-2
RESTATED IN TODAY'S LANGUAGE: God created the universe instantly with a release of divine energy beyond human comprehension, the Big Bang. Everything was vaporized with heat so intense that even light could not penetrate it. Vapors eventually cooled to form the earth's crust and a deep watery surface. God was getting ready to do something special here!

This is all the information that the Bible provides about creation of the universe. To say more would have created credibility issues for people in earlier times who didn't have the historical and scientific understanding we have today.


These first two verses of the Bible are just an introductory summary of God's creation. See Bible study here on how God brought life to earth in six stages called 'days,' in essentially the same sequence as modern science now explains it – written in the Bible more than 3,000 years ago!

BIBLE REPORTED BIG BANG FIRST

Science discovered it 3,000 years later

Old science was 'Steady State' (until 1960-1980)

Until the 1960s, scientists held to the Steady State theory that the universe had no beginning or end in time and that the earth has always existed in one form or another. They scoffed at the Bible for saying the earth had a beginning.

The first use of the term 'big bang' was by astronomer Fred Hoyle on a BBC broadcast in 1949 when he said that a new theory was being proposed by some radical astronomers 'based on the hypothesis that all matter in the universe was created in one big bang at a particular time in the remote past.' He argued against the theory and said it was 'irrational and outside science.'

However, as a result of better telescopes and computers, by the 1980s the 'Big Bang' had become the dominant explanation by astronomers and astrophysicists.

New science is 'Big Bang' (since 1980)

Today, the Big Bang is generally regarded as settled science.

The universe started with a 'singularity' (Christians say 'God'), then exploded, expanded and cooled over the next 13.8 billion years into the cosmos we know today – and it's still expanding!

NASA has calculated that In the first second after the universe began the surrounding temperature was more than10 billion degrees Fahrenheit.

Bible has been saying it for thousands of years

The Bible says that 'In the beginning' the earth was 'formless and empty.' Heat was so intense that everything was vaporized, just gasses.

There was 'darkness over the face of the deep.' Light cannot penetrate intense heat.

The 'spirit of God was hovering over the waters' (condensing steam and cooling crust): God was giving special attention to planet earth because He planned to do something very unique and special here, to create life.

The Big Bang is what scientists have been saying for less than 80 years but what the Bible has been saying for more than 3,000 years!

This gives us great confidence in the Bible because the writer of Genesis could not have known about the Big Bang that long ago except by special revelation from the Creator.

SCIENCE NOW AGREES WITH BIBLE

Bible said it first 3000 years ago

Old science was 'Steady State'

Until recently – about 60 years ago – scientists held to the Steady State theory that the universe had no beginning or end in time, that the earth has always existed in one form or another. Scientists scoffed at the Bible for saying that the earth had a beginning.

The first use of the term 'big bang' was by astronomer Fred Hoyle on a BBC broadcast in 1949 when he said that a new theory was being proposed by some young astronomers 'based on the hypothesis that all matter in the universe was created in one big bang at a particular time in the remote past.'

He argued against the theory and said it was 'irrational and outside science.'

However, as a result of better telescopes, instrumentation and computers, by the 1980s the 'Big Bang' had become the dominant theory (explanation) used by astronomers and astrophysicists.

New science (since 1980's) is 'Big Bang'

Today, the Big Bang is generally regarded as settled science. Scientists now say that the universe started with a 'singularity' (Christians say 'God'), then exploded, expanding and cooling over the next 13.8 billion years into the cosmos we know today – and it's still expanding!

NASA has calculated that in the first second after the universe began, the surrounding temperature was more than10 billion degrees Fahrenheit.

Bible has been saying it for 3,000 years

The Bible (quotation above) says that:

'In the beginning' the earth was 'formless and empty:'  Heat was so intense that everything was vaporized, just gasses, no form, empy.
There was 'darkness over the face of the deep:' Light cannot penetrate intense heat, so it was dark. As gasses gradually cooled, the earth began to take shape, a deep (thick) core, a visible face.
The 'spirit of God was hovering over the waters:' Steam vapor condensed so that most of earth's surface was water. God was giving special attention to planet earth because he planned to do something special here, TO CREATE LIFE!

The Big Bang is what science has been saying for 60 years ... and what the Bible has been saying for 3,000 years!

SCIENCE IS NOT AN ENEMY

Bible and science both seek truth

Science and theology both seek truth

There can be no difference between true science and true Christianity because both seek truthand there is only one truth! Science inquires into the physical and Christianity inquires into the spiritual. They make different inquiries in different ways, but both are part of the same quest for truth.

Conflicts between science and the Bible have resulted from lack of knowledge at particular times in history but are eventually resolved. For example:

World was flat. Christians fought the theory advanced by Pythagoras that the earth is round, not flat. They argued from Bible verses that refer to 'the four corners of the earth.' The earth can't be round, they said, beause the Bible says it has corners. They quibbled over 'corners' the way we quibble over 'days.'

World was stationary. Christians fought the theory advanced by Copernicius that the earth revolves around he sun. They believed that God made the earth the center of everything and argued from Psalm 104:5 ('He established the earth upon its foundations ...') and Psalm 93.2 ('... the earth is firmly established, it will not be moved'). They quibbled over 'established' and 'foundations' the way we quibble over 'days.'

Universe had no beginning. Similarly, scientists fought the Bible's teaching that the universe had a beginning. They claimed for centuries that the universe has always existed (solid state theory), and they scoffed at Christians and the Bible for being wrong.

Eventually Christians accepted the fact that the world is not flat and stationary ... and scientists now (since the 1980's) accept the fact that the universe had a beginning.

Conflicts in wording and understanding are usually resolved over time as we get more facts, but in the meantime there have been many unnecessary battles that have undermined confidence in the Bible.

Today, good study of both the Bible and science will reconcile God's word with God's world. Properly understood, science is just our growing understanding of God's marvelous creation.

Science makes the case for God

Science and the Bible are not enemies.

In fact, science is making the case for belief in a single almighty designer-creator God – ONE GOD, not many Gods.

For most of human history, people believed in a pantheon of gods.

People believed that hurricanes, earthquakes, droughts and diseases were the wrath of the angry gods who had to be placated with offerings and rituals. Many early Christians were persecuted, and even put to death, because they did not honor the local gods and thus were blamed for bringing punishments upon the community.

Science has been a great help to Christianity by revealing a single master design plan, leaving no doubt that the world is NOT run by a pantheon of gods and that natural disasters and illnesses are NOT caused by wrath of the gods but by natural laws emanating from an intelligent and predictable master plan for the universe.

For most people in the United States today, the choice is not which spiritual deity to worship, but whether or not to acknowledge and obey the ONE designer-creator God.

See Bible study here on one God only for this foundational Christian belief.

Science is discovery of God's physical design plan
Theology is discovery of God's spiritual design plan

GOD'S METHOD AND TIMING

above nature and very old

Universe began externally, not within nature

There are no natural explanations for either the existence or the purpose of the universe.

If the Big Bang is the beginning of nature, then some intelligence and power outside of nature and greater than nature had to trigger the Big Bang, to start everything out of nothing, and to establish the predetermined laws of nuclear energy, physics and chemistry that enabled it to develop with orderly precision.

Christians believe that divine intelligence and power is the only reasonable explanation for an instant universe of such magnitude, majesty and precision. Scientists call this source the 'singularity;' Christians know it as 'God.'

The Big Bang does not push God out of creation. It just explains God's method and timing. Like everything else scientific, God let's us learn more and more over time about His creation and how it works.

The Bible does not specifically tell in years when the Big Bang occurred, but scientists are now in agreement that it was approximately 13.8 billion years ago.

Earth is very old

The earth (solid) is approximately 4.5 billion years old. Apparently it took about 9.3 billion years – the time between Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 1:6 – for the gasses to cool and form a crust. Then God began shaping the earth and putting life on it.

See Bible study here on God's six stages of transformation.

The compiler/writer of Genesis could not have had this amazing scientific insight more than three thousand years ago without special revelation from the designer/creator.

 See Bible study here on why creation 'day' is more than 24-hours.

The earth is still cooling, a whirling glob of molten minerals, 8,000 miles in diameter, with a thin crust (typically 5-25 miles) that supports life. There is nothing like it anywhere else in the known universe.

And now spiritual life

The Bible and the scientific community are now in essential agreement about the beginning of our physical world.

But there's another part of our world which came later – the non-physical part, even more complex than any physical BODY the human SOUL (mind, will and emotion) and human SPIRIT (connection to God).

Topic 2.5 (coming soon) will investigate from scripture how humans are made in the image of God: A human trinity (body, soul and spirit) which mirrors God's trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit)

FIVE REASONS

for acknowledging Big Bang

✓ REASON 1. Bible said it first
Genesis 1:1-2 (quoted in yellow above), the first words of the Bible, describe the Big Bang. We could not deduce the full massive concept from those few words – and the concept would have been incomprehensible to ancient Hebrews – but now with help from modern science we see how everything began in an instant with the Big Bang, the moment when God spoke the universe into existence.
✓ REASON 2. Science now agrees
Until the mid to late 1900s, most scientists believed that the universe had always existed and rejected the idea that it had a beginning. But today virtually all scientists agree that the universe had an instant beginning caused by a 'singularity' (Christians say God). There is massive scientific evidence showing that the beginning was billions of years ago.
✓ REASON 3. Enhances gospel
Accepting the Big Bang does not in any way alter Christology (birth, teaching, atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ). Instead, the gospel message is enhanced because it is not tarnished with concerns that the Bible is sometimes in error.
✓ REASON 4. Removes barrier to faith
Jesus gave Christians the commission to 'make disciples.' Christians often thwart the mission by erecting unnecessary barriers to faith. When doubters and unbelievers are told that the Bible says the universe is less than 10,000 years old – and they know that this is patently wrong – they assume that the Bible is wrong about other things, too.
✓ REASON 5. Honors God
A universe that unfolds with majestic precision over billions of years is even more marvelous than a universe put together as-is in a week. It diminishes God's creation when people say His creation is less amazing than it really is.
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Summary
Big Bang

🟩  God did it!

Our finite minds could not comprehend origin of the universe even if we were given the details. The key point is that God did it! The universe did not come into existence by itself from nothing. It bears ample evidence of transcendent intelligence and power.

🟩  Big Bang

Essentially, the Big Bang is not about science. It is about the moment when God spoke the universe into existence. Science is the gradual discovery of what God created.

🟩  God's method

There are strong reasons for believing that the universe is billions of years old and that the Big Bang was God's method and timing of creation.

🟩  Science now agrees that there was a beginning

Within the past 60 years, the world's scientific community has completely changed its view regarding the beginning of the universe and now agrees with the Bible regarding the moment God spoke the universe into existence. We say 'God;' science grudgingly says 'the singularity.'

🟩  Bible said it first

Genesis 1:1-2 is an amazing description of the Big Bang, written 3,000 years ago, but only now understood by our generation in light of modern science.
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Just another Satanic attempt to change God's WORD. More likely made up of Liberal Kids that don't know any better.
Thank you I knew about these things but I did not understand
Wrong all wrong
2nd law of thermodynamics disproves big bang & evolution.
O my how i wish i could find a friend would be willing to discuss the bible openly with me.
This is great, I am going to read more of your topics!
Not sure what to think of this bible study. If nothing else it compels you to really dig deep and think,read and pray for understanding which I think is a good thing.
Very interesting
You have an interesting take on how to reconcile the time difference challenge between Bible time history & archeology . I don’t think it will matter about which time viewpoint ya right. What matters is faith & trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sin & gaining eternal life
Of course. If Adam and Eve were the only humans and had children, who did the children copulate with? If it was each other, then everyone would have mental defects. The Adam & Eve story is just the beginning of the Old Testament.
Death and suffering had not taken place until the original sin, so no one was before Adam.
Rational Evangelicals. Exellent.
I. Want. To. Learn. More.
Yes there were people before Adam, the cave Men and the ice Age.
Someone has never had a real encounter with God and does not know the assumptions he is making with the scientific evidence. Sad when you don't know either God or Science
When are you going to have more?
False teaching. Repent
Excellent reading
Dumbest thing I've ever read!
Will this material be made available in print form for purchase?
Much of what you share are things that have been revealed to me by the Spirit of God. Finally your site is out and does not counter Biblical script and does not hinder the Christian witness. Thank God.
This is heresy. I hope you repent and trust the Scriptures.
By observing ruins etc firsthand, my personal opinion is that man existed before Adam. Adam was the first God breathed His Spirit into.
This is from the devil. The Bible says Satan is a liar and the creater of it. This is a lie created by Satan to deceive people. Adam was the first man and the first sinner. His sin is what started death.
Scientists lie to us. They lie about the age of the earth.
Not bad, I'll have to check the Hebrew to double-triple check, for this kind of study the KJ is almost useless.
When are more topics coming?
All present dating methods are based on assumptions that cannot be proven. The methods do not meet scientific requirements of being observable, repeatable, and testable. They can reliable determine chemical compositions, but they CANNOT reliably give age..
Unbelievable. Was man there at the beginning to make this determination. No. The human race is so arrogant and ignorant.
I don't think I believe this
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Fully embrace this information. By the Spirit I have been convinced before reading this. Any serious thinker who is honest and observant will become agnostic in trying to remain with the ultra conservative ideas of literal six day creation. What a beautiful creation was being made by a glorious intelligent designer!
I can't wait to share this article with my grandson.
Thank you for this summary. Very large and difficult task and worth the time taken. I am a believer in Jesus Christ, His eternal life, His death burial and resurrection. I believe the Bible is the Word of God.
Scientists make mistakes, and when the scientists' beliefs don't match the Bible then God's word, the Bible, is right, and the scientists are wrong.
Had to be people here before Adam, all the ancient buildings prove the civilizations were here. Many teens of thousands of years.
This has certainly opened my mind, I believe in the Bible but could never get a lot of answers to my questions. Thanks
Your are wrong
Have always believed in this way ,read and ask for understanding and it will be given to you.
Thank you
Fascinating to think about. Here is something also to absorb. Let Us make man in Our image. Who is Us? Why not let Me make man in my image. Sounds plural to me. Thank you for the compelling argument Adam is not the first man:)
Since your website is new and still in the making, it leaves me excited yet hungry for more understanding. Thank you so much for putting your website together to help those of us asking questions about traditional lines of thinking. I look forward to reading more!
I found this to be extremely informative. I'd always had doubts about the "original sin" and being punished for my ancestors sins, but this explained why "original sin" doesn't really exist in a way that resonated with me. Thank you. I will definitely check this site more often.
Very,very informative! Thank you
As much nonsense and stupidity as I have heard since big bang or evolution.
Loved it. Been saying it for years but nobody listened.
About time!
Only when ignorance, in the name of science, tries to be wiser than what scripture say, is when Gods Word is twisted, unto their own destruction
Are these lessons available in printed form that can be purchased or that can be downloaded on line in a condensed version?
very well done.!!
No scripture to back up your words.
Of course there were people before Adam. Adam and Eve were created for a line through which Christ would come.
Some scientists are open to intelligent design, the problem is some scientists think they are trying to bring church into the classroom.If some scientists find out that some believe in intelligent design they will lose funding.
I appreciate this study.
I will read this in its entirety. What I've read so far is right on according to my extensive studies over 27 years.
I agree there had to have been other people before Adam. The sons had children, with whom? Certainly not with their own mother or the gene pool would have died out.
Either believe the world or believe God. We cannot have both.
I like it! I always wondered about the dinosaurs, and whether other people lived before Adam. You see, the Bible says that Cain was worried about being slain by other people. So, what does that tell you? It's more to the Bible than some clergymen are letting on.
Trying to reinterpret the Bible according to man’s interpretations that are based on unprovable assumptions destroys the authority of the Bible. God was there. Man was not.
Thank you for this most interesting discussion of genealogy re: the timing of the first man as relates to both the Bible as well as archaeology!!!
So far you make a lot of sense, I do believe in God.
Interesting and thought provoking, following a line of thinking that has interested me for years. To question traditional interpretation doesn't detract from the validity and power of scripture but reinforces it. Jesus was rejected by the religious experts of His day because He didn't fit the traditional interpreting of scripture. We still have much to learn.
Thank you for the article! There are several nonbelievers in my life that I love deeply. My heart breaks for them. Every time I share my faith, I'm bombarded with science. Perhaps this will help. Thank you. God bless you.
Blessings to you!!
Thank you for this.It helps me understand my youngest grandchild(age 31). Also this affirms my teaching as a science teacher and pastor.
Do you offer a textbook?
Pure sophistry for the purpose of setting aside the claims of God upon us.
An extremely good read.Would like very much to hear more.
Just came across your website, want to commend you on believing the Bible can and should be read as the Truth. I have always believed that if I cannot make sense out of the scriptures, it is my deficiently not the Bibles. God Bless.
Excellent
Just happened upon this site and wow! This is fabulous. I will be back. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us all. God bless you and your family.
lov it
I want to learn it all.
Does the bible really say humans will burn forever in hell or is it really more like thrown in the fire and destroyed? Ps I already know the answer!
You have developed material that is vitally needed for reaching the newer generations.
Beautifully done and very reasonable. I’ve been struggling with the contradictions in the Bible and science for years. I believe that there is a God but I wasn’t always sure if the Bible Was Gods word or man made. Thank you! Makes so much sense!
Thanks, This is what I needed. I can't get enough of this marvelous study.
Interesting topics. The bible is good for salvation but not for earth history
My views on original sin have changed. Romans 5:12 says "all men die because all have sinned". What it doesn't say is "all men die because Adam sinned".
Yes to have a intelligence conversation is of most importance.
Good points
The big bang is a theory. God is a fact.
Adam was the first person on this earth bottom line
I stumbled on your website recently, and was impressed by the scope of it and the balance evident in it.
Humans were around a lot longer the 4000 bc. Thats not even as old as Sumer the first proven civilization. Evidence strongly supports that civilization may have existed long before Sumer.
This is the best information a believer can get. Where can I donate. Big Bang is consistent to the Bible, great news. Let’s ge smart about religion. Saying the Bible is wrong has helped millions become non believers. This news can reinforce the beliefs in those who strive to believe but need a more firm and also scientific reasoning for the existence of a God. Great web site!
Interesting and thought provoking.
Very good explanation
It’s too bad that the Christian community cannot allow for mistranslation of both an ancient language and understanding of that language.
I don’t think Adam was the first human on earth. I am 72 in age. Most people my age and older do not have this perception. But from my bible study I believe this Genesis points to others.
You guys are doing an incredible job of bringing science The Bible together as one truth thank you Please continue this valuable work to awaken the public that the Bible and science are truly God's truth not contradicting each other
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