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Location of Garden of Eden | Mesopotamia (Iraq)
PURPOSE: Helping Christians engage in intelligent conversations with doubters and unbelievers

What happened in the Garden of Eden?

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Here's where we combine the six Insights to get an informed biblical answer

The Garden of Eden was a real place at a real time

Most people treat the biblical story of the Garden of Eden like a fairy tale. They're not sure if it really happened at all. Or when. Or where. Or why.

To most, it's something that's said to have happened way back in time, when the world was first created ... when God made Adam and Eve in some paradise on earth where everything was perfect until a talking snake lured them into eating a forbidden apple ... and that somehow wrecked everything in the world, and we're all guilty and going to hell because of it.

It's very murky and incredible to most people, even Christians.

The purpose of this Bible study is to dispel some of the fiction and mystery woven into the story and equip Christians for informed conversation about it with others, especially with scoffing doubters and unbelievers.

The setting for the Garden of Eden story is in ancient Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq), the Cradle of Civilization, about 6,000 years ago.

This is not 'long-long-time-ago, far-far-away' mythology or depictions from cave drawings by Neanderthals. This is relatively recent history, written in the well-understood Hebrew language about an area of the world with a rich history we can see and study today.

We know the approximate place (Mesopotamia) from the Bible description in Genesis 1:8-14.

Map showing location of Garden of Eden

We know the approximate time (BC 4000 to BC 8000) from Bible genealogies. See the Bible study on people before Adam. As best we can tell from history and archaeology, there were about seven million people on earth at that time.

World population at time of Adam and Eve

This is not 'long-long-time-ago, far-far-away' mythology or interpretations of cave drawings by Neanderthals. This is relatively recent history, in well-written Hebrew language regarding an area of the world with rich history we can study.

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Thinkers Bible Studies / Topic 1.1

GOD'S CREATION

Was the BIG BANG God's method?

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Insight 1: Bible credibility
INSIGHT 1

Tradition and folklore have twisted what the Bible actually says

The Garden of Eden is like a fairy tale to most people, even to Christians, and most don't know that the Bible tells us its time, place, and exactly what happened. Tradition and folklore have added so much to the biblical story that it now almost incomprehensible to doubters and unbelievers. Major theological doctrines have grown out of the story for Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
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Insight 2: yō·wm is Hebrew word for Bible creation day
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Adam and Eve may not have been the first humans

TOPIC 1.3 (People before Adam) lists many clues from the Bible that there were people on earth before God placed Adam in the Garden of Eden. Adam was the first sinner, but probably not the first human. Bible credibility is at stake here because archaeology, scientific testing, and DNA analysis show clearly that there was human activity on earth before BC 4000. See the evidence from both Bible and science.
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Insight 3: What God created in each 'day'
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The earth was not a perfect paradise before Adam sinned

See all the Bible verses that tell us that God didn't create the earth as a perfect paradise (from our perspective). The earth as we find it is the way God wanted it. Adam didn't ruin it. Jesus never even mentioned Adam's name. Growth and multiplication without death is no paradise. Death is essential not only for food but also for preventing overcrowding and suffocation, and for clearing the way for new life.
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The Bible doesn't say that Adam's sin is the cause of all death

TOPIC 1.3.2 (Sin not cause of death) shows that the idea that all death is the result of Adam's sin comes from church tradition, not from any direct statement in the Bible. See the two verses in scripture which have been stretched and twisted to support the idea that the earth and everything in it was once immortal.
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The doctrine of original sin is grossly unjust and biblically challenged

TOPIC 1.4.3 (Original sin) shows that the idea that everyone is born guilty for Adam's sin comes from church tradition, not from any direct statement in the Bible. See the four verses in scripture which have been stretched and twisted to support this monstrous idea, and see the harm it has done in driving people away from God. Also, see an in-depth study of Romans 5 and I Corinthians 15.
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The Bible says that in hell the fire burns FOREVER but not the people

TOPIC 3.4.1 (Will people burn in hell forever?) lists all 29 verses on topic from the Bible, quoted in full, showing that hell fire is forever but that people will eventually die in the fire. In Jesus words: burned up, destroyed, consumed, perish. People go to hell because of their own unforgiven sin, not because of Adam's sin. God's punishment is with justice, not with crazed vengence.
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Here's where we combine the six Insights to get an informed biblical answer: What happened in the Garden of Eden?

The Insights here are like pieces of a puzzle. Put the pieces together and see the big picture! Now you'll be prepared to engage intelligently and coherently with anyone about what the Bible says about any major aspect of the Garden of Eden story. Also see reader comments.
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The reason the doctrine of original sin arose, was that Augustine couldn't read Greek and there was an inadequacy at certain points in the Latin translation, resulting in a misunderstanding.
Does the bible really say humans will burn forever in hell or is it really more like thrown in the fire and destroyed? Ps I already know the answer!
I really enjoy your site.
Thank you I knew about these things but I did not understand
Not sure what to think of this bible study. If nothing else it compels you to really dig deep and think,read and pray for understanding which I think is a good thing.
Excellent
The big bang is a theory. God is a fact.
Interesting to read. Will research further.
Bullshit. Just utter bullshit.
Since your website is new and still in the making, it leaves me excited yet hungry for more understanding.
All present dating methods are based on assumptions that cannot be proven. The methods do not meet scientific requirements of being observable, repeatable, and testable. They can reliable determine chemical compositions, but they CANNOT reliably give age..
Thank you for this summary. Very large and difficult task and worth the time taken. I am a believer in Jesus Christ, His eternal life, His death burial and resurrection. I believe the Bible is the Word of God.
Yes there were people before Adam, the cave Men and the ice Age.
Bwahahahahaha!!! Religion, please go away and die.
There are too many pastors and theologians who take the simplicity of God's Word and try to make it profound when they should be taking the profoundness of God's Word and making it simple.
This is fascinating! I stumbled across this site and have been questioning what I was taught. This is an answer to prayer!
Excellent points here.
Of course. If Adam and Eve were the only humans and had children, who did the children copulate with? If it was each other, then everyone would have mental defects. The Adam & Eve story is just the beginning of the Old Testament.
I like your site. Good to see others believe as I do.
You should just go away. You are preaching heresy.
I agree there had to have been other people before Adam. The sons had children, with whom? Certainly not with their own mother or the gene pool would have died out.
Pure sophistry for the purpose of setting aside the claims of God upon us.
All bad things on the face of the earth are connected to sin , by one mans sin we were all condemned.
Very enlightening and interesting, Thank you
Very good explanation
God created everything that was created in six literal days.
I recently discovered your bible studies website and I just want to thank you for your initiative in establishing this study resource.
I love this web site. I have always wanted to know more about what the Bible means. Please, please keep expanding this site.
Brilliant
This is great. God has shown this to me some time ago, but you are the first that has ever confirmed it. God is good.
Just came across your website, want to commend you on believing the Bible can and should be read as the Truth. I have always believed that if I cannot make sense out of the scriptures, it is my deficiently not the Bibles. God Bless.
When are you going to have more?
Interesting topics. The bible is good for salvation but not for earth history
I will read this in its entirety. What I've read so far is right on according to my extensive studies over 27 years.
This makes me better understand that you need to "dig deeper" in Bible study.
this page can go to hell the bible is the truth idiots science is what a man created not GOD!
Thank you for your good work.
With this pandemic going on, I have many of these conversations with myself.
Your site is full of heresy. Repent.
I hope this excellent presentation penetrates the evangelical church where sadly a majority of Christians believe that the Big Bang is an atheistic concept rather the Fingerprint of God that it is!
very well done.!!
You have an interesting take on how to reconcile the time difference challenge between Bible time history & archeology . I don’t think it will matter about which time viewpoint ya right. What matters is faith & trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sin & gaining eternal life
Scientists make mistakes, and when the scientists' beliefs don't match the Bible then God's word, the Bible, is right, and the scientists are wrong.
This is wonderful. Would like to read more.
Have always believed in this way ,read and ask for understanding and it will be given to you.
Yes
Thank you
FInally someone uses their brain instead of emotions to explain what I have thought and tried to say for sooo long. Thank you!
Amen Amen Amen!!!
I don’t think Adam was the first human on earth. I am 72 in age. Most people my age and older do not have this perception. But from my bible study I believe this Genesis points to others.
Dumbest thing I've ever read!
Enjoyed the read. I am a believer.
God bless.
These explanations make real sense.
Amazing! I have been studying this subject and drafting a book for about 5 years. I discovered your web site today. In those 5 years, I have come to many of the same concepts as you. Good job folks.
If for nothing else, this at least may cause someone to dig deeper.
lov it
Great job! Fantastic resource for believers not only to be able to speak intelligently in a time of waning faith, but for our own education and edification as well!
What you have said makes so much sense to me. I would love to read more of what you think.
Thank you for this.It helps me understand my youngest grandchild(age 31). Also this affirms my teaching as a science teacher and pastor.
Interesting !!
Thank you for a good read on this subject: the indisputable existence of humanoids and civilizations before Adam.
This is a fantastic article , thank you
Very informative and interesting.
Mainstream science is wrong about almost everything.
Unbelievable. Was man there at the beginning to make this determination. No. The human race is so arrogant and ignorant.
Really enjoyed
Would like to keep you on my site for further study. You made me think.
Your site is great for discussions and other questions about the bible. I hope that it continues.
Just another Satanic attempt to change God's WORD. More likely made up of Liberal Kids that don't know any better.
Adam was the first man created to have a living soul.
Loved it. Been saying it for years but nobody listened.
I want to learn it all.
Very interesting to read.
As much nonsense and stupidity as I have heard since big bang or evolution.
Not bad, I'll have to check the Hebrew to double-triple check, for this kind of study the KJ is almost useless.
I am excited to have found this site when I was seeking the truth about Bible timelines. I have been forced to justify my beliefs by a pastor who has a very fundamental belief in God's seven days of creation.
Great explanation of something I've wondered about.
I absolutly loved this! My daughter is a high school science teacher, and we are both christians. We had our own ideas of what scriptures say, and what actual physical science says. This brought ALOT to light! Thank you.
Thank you for your wonderful website. I have linked to it from my own. I'm looking forward to your expanding list of subjects.
I stumbled on your website recently, and was impressed by the scope of it and the balance evident in it.
This has certainly opened my mind, I believe in the Bible but could never get a lot of answers to my questions. Thanks
Great information, it is worth further studies. Kept up the good work, all of us need to read and study the bible more including me. We need to remember Christ is the Only Way to eternal life.
I appreciate your efforts at presenting the Bible as an accurate portrayal of what science has found to be true.
Wonderful subject thank you I want more Bible studies
Very interesting
The problem with "science" today that too much of it is based on theory and not enough observation.
I am 75 years old. I was raised as a Roman Catholic. I have studied religions all of my life. I have so many problems with the Bible starting with Genesis. I agree with your assessment that Adam wasn't the first human on earth. The more that I learn, the less I believe in the bible and religion as a salvation. But I shall continue researching.
Great Information. I've been teaching these studies for some time to hopefully help Christians have a true biblical world view and not just a churchy world view. Glad yall out there.
Proof of the absurdity of ALL religions, thanks.
Fascinating and deightfully clear!
This is from the devil. The Bible says Satan is a liar and the creater of it. This is a lie created by Satan to deceive people. Adam was the first man and the first sinner. His sin is what started death.
Do you offer a textbook?
One of the best study sites I have found!
I want more information and I want bible study
Fully embrace this information. By the Spirit I have been convinced before reading this. Any serious thinker who is honest and observant will become agnostic in trying to remain with the ultra conservative ideas of literal six day creation. What a beautiful creation was being made by a glorious intelligent designer!
Thank you for the work that goes into this site, and please keep the good material coming.
You’re freaking idiots led by Satan! Change the Bible, go to hell! Hope you enjoy it!
I do not believe in a Supreme Being who created us in his image and likeness as quoted in the bible
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