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Location of Garden of Eden | Mesopotamia (Iraq)
PURPOSE: Helping Christians engage in intelligent conversations with doubters and unbelievers

What happened in the Garden of Eden?

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Here's where we combine the six Insights to get an informed biblical answer

The Garden of Eden was a real place at a real time

Most people treat the biblical story of the Garden of Eden like a fairy tale. They're not sure if it really happened at all. Or when. Or where. Or why.

To most, it's something that's said to have happened way back in time, when the world was first created ... when God made Adam and Eve in some paradise on earth where everything was perfect until a talking snake lured them into eating a forbidden apple ... and that somehow wrecked everything in the world, and we're all guilty and going to hell because of it.

It's very murky and incredible to most people, even Christians.

The purpose of this Bible study is to dispel some of the fiction and mystery woven into the story and equip Christians for informed conversation about it with others, especially with scoffing doubters and unbelievers.

The setting for the Garden of Eden story is in ancient Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq), the Cradle of Civilization, about 6,000 years ago.

This is not 'long-long-time-ago, far-far-away' mythology or depictions from cave drawings by Neanderthals. This is relatively recent history, written in the well-understood Hebrew language about an area of the world with a rich history we can see and study today.

We know the approximate place (Mesopotamia) from the Bible description in Genesis 1:8-14.

Map showing location of Garden of Eden

We know the approximate time (BC 4000 to BC 8000) from Bible genealogies. See the Bible study on people before Adam. As best we can tell from history and archaeology, there were about seven million people on earth at that time.

World population at time of Adam and Eve

This is not 'long-long-time-ago, far-far-away' mythology or interpretations of cave drawings by Neanderthals. This is relatively recent history, in well-written Hebrew language regarding an area of the world with rich history we can study.

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Thinkers Bible Studies / Topic 1.1

GOD'S CREATION

Was the BIG BANG God's method?

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Insight 1: Bible credibility
INSIGHT 1

Tradition and folklore have twisted what the Bible actually says

The Garden of Eden is like a fairy tale to most people, even to Christians, and most don't know that the Bible tells us its time, place, and exactly what happened. Tradition and folklore have added so much to the biblical story that it now almost incomprehensible to doubters and unbelievers. Major theological doctrines have grown out of the story for Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
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Insight 2: yō·wm is Hebrew word for Bible creation day
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Adam and Eve may not have been the first humans

TOPIC 1.3 (People before Adam) lists many clues from the Bible that there were people on earth before God placed Adam in the Garden of Eden. Adam was the first sinner, but probably not the first human. Bible credibility is at stake here because archaeology, scientific testing, and DNA analysis show clearly that there was human activity on earth before BC 4000. See the evidence from both Bible and science.
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Insight 3: What God created in each 'day'
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The earth was not a perfect paradise before Adam sinned

See all the Bible verses that tell us that God didn't create the earth as a perfect paradise (from our perspective). The earth as we find it is the way God wanted it. Adam didn't ruin it. Jesus never even mentioned Adam's name. Growth and multiplication without death is no paradise. Death is essential not only for food but also for preventing overcrowding and suffocation, and for clearing the way for new life.
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The Bible doesn't say that Adam's sin is the cause of all death

TOPIC 1.3.2 (Sin not cause of death) shows that the idea that all death is the result of Adam's sin comes from church tradition, not from any direct statement in the Bible. See the two verses in scripture which have been stretched and twisted to support the idea that the earth and everything in it was once immortal.
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The doctrine of original sin is grossly unjust and biblically challenged

TOPIC 1.4.3 (Original sin) shows that the idea that everyone is born guilty for Adam's sin comes from church tradition, not from any direct statement in the Bible. See the four verses in scripture which have been stretched and twisted to support this monstrous idea, and see the harm it has done in driving people away from God. Also, see an in-depth study of Romans 5 and I Corinthians 15.
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INSIGHT 6

The Bible says that in hell the fire burns FOREVER but not the people

TOPIC 3.4.1 (Will people burn in hell forever?) lists all 29 verses on topic from the Bible, quoted in full, showing that hell fire is forever but that people will eventually die in the fire. In Jesus words: burned up, destroyed, consumed, perish. People go to hell because of their own unforgiven sin, not because of Adam's sin. God's punishment is with justice, not with crazed vengence.
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Here's where we combine the six Insights to get an informed biblical answer: What happened in the Garden of Eden?

The Insights here are like pieces of a puzzle. Put the pieces together and see the big picture! Now you'll be prepared to engage intelligently and coherently with anyone about what the Bible says about any major aspect of the Garden of Eden story. Also see reader comments.
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All present dating methods are based on assumptions that cannot be proven. The methods do not meet scientific requirements of being observable, repeatable, and testable. They can reliable determine chemical compositions, but they CANNOT reliably give age..
I admit that I have some struggles with your interweaving of science and the Bible, but that will not stop me from reading and considering the material.
Great explanation of something I've wondered about.
Thank you. You have clarified how to teach what I have always believed. I didn’t know how to explain it to others.
Does the bible really say humans will burn forever in hell or is it really more like thrown in the fire and destroyed? Ps I already know the answer!
I appreciate your thorough investigation into the Word of God.
Had to be people here before Adam, all the ancient buildings prove the civilizations were here. Many teens of thousands of years.
very well done.!!
awesome info keep up this good work
I wish to save this
Someone has never had a real encounter with God and does not know the assumptions he is making with the scientific evidence. Sad when you don't know either God or Science
This is great. God has shown this to me some time ago, but you are the first that has ever confirmed it. God is good.
Unbelievable. Was man there at the beginning to make this determination. No. The human race is so arrogant and ignorant.
I find your explanation very compelling and appreciate that we do need to answer questions of unbelievers, there needs to be effort in this direction. So I thank you for your efforts
This is heresy. I hope you repent and trust the Scriptures.
I discovered this site while I was at work. I will take time out and read through it. I think it is very interesting and it's good to know so I hope and pray that I can and will be able to venture a little bit more. Thank you and continue to have a blessed and prosperous day.
Some scientists are open to intelligent design, the problem is some scientists think they are trying to bring church into the classroom.If some scientists find out that some believe in intelligent design they will lose funding.
You’re freaking idiots led by Satan! Change the Bible, go to hell! Hope you enjoy it!
I have struggled with references to people before Adam, and coordinating it with science. This makes sense to me. Thank you for helping me with my dilemma.
You have an interesting take on how to reconcile the time difference challenge between Bible time history & archeology . I don’t think it will matter about which time viewpoint ya right. What matters is faith & trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sin & gaining eternal life
Not bad, I'll have to check the Hebrew to double-triple check, for this kind of study the KJ is almost useless.
Do you offer a textbook?
It’s too bad that the Christian community cannot allow for mistranslation of both an ancient language and understanding of that language.
I really liked what is written and honestly agree with the reasoning. May the Almighty broaden my mind to perceive and digest these facts.
Amen. Thank you.
I like your site. Good to see others believe as I do.
You have answered so many questions for me! Thank you!
Just happened upon this site and wow! This is fabulous. I will be back. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us all. God bless you and your family.
Mainstream science is wrong about almost everything.
praying Gods direction, provision, and anointing on this site and everyone, like me, blessed enough to have been led to it .
The reason the doctrine of original sin arose, was that Augustine couldn't read Greek and there was an inadequacy at certain points in the Latin translation, resulting in a misunderstanding.
I appreciate your efforts at presenting the Bible as an accurate portrayal of what science has found to be true.
Of course. If Adam and Eve were the only humans and had children, who did the children copulate with? If it was each other, then everyone would have mental defects. The Adam & Eve story is just the beginning of the Old Testament.
Your are wrong
Very interesting please keep me posted
As much nonsense and stupidity as I have heard since big bang or evolution.
Great Information. I've been teaching these studies for some time to hopefully help Christians have a true biblical world view and not just a churchy world view. Glad yall out there.
Thank you for your good work.
Very enlightening and interesting, Thank you
This has certainly opened my mind, I believe in the Bible but could never get a lot of answers to my questions. Thanks
This is a great Bible study, it explains everything perfectly so there is no confusion anywhere, it just helps understanding the Bible and God's word so well.
I will read this in its entirety. What I've read so far is right on according to my extensive studies over 27 years.
When are you going to have more?
Very interesting to read.
Found this to be very helpful. Answered my questions.
This is a very interesting read and I'm going to be reading it again. 
Very interesting. Verification of my own thoughts.
You are very much on the right track.
If for nothing else, this at least may cause someone to dig deeper.
O my how i wish i could find a friend would be willing to discuss the bible openly with me.
Very interesting, food for thought. I have often wondered about this and have had many questions Thanks
Right!
Very,very informative! Thank you
2nd law of thermodynamics disproves big bang & evolution.
The problem with "science" today that too much of it is based on theory and not enough observation.
Thank you
Yes, I agree there is a lot of evidence to substantiate what you say. I have often thought about this myself. Thank you for all the research you have done.
The main reason people believe that Adam was the first man is that is what someone told them. It’s man following man and not man reading the Bible for the truths that are in it.
You really don’t understand the Bible at all.
Very informative. Keep up the good work. The world needs better understanding of God’s word.
An extremely good read.Would like very much to hear more.
Since your website is new and still in the making, it leaves me excited yet hungry for more understanding.
I agree there had to have been other people before Adam. The sons had children, with whom? Certainly not with their own mother or the gene pool would have died out.
Fascinating and deightfully clear!
Don't know, don't need to know. It'll all be revealed by & by.
Thank you for this summary. Very large and difficult task and worth the time taken. I am a believer in Jesus Christ, His eternal life, His death burial and resurrection. I believe the Bible is the Word of God.
Wrong all wrong
The information that I read was very informative.
With this pandemic going on, I have many of these conversations with myself.
Fully embrace this information. By the Spirit I have been convinced before reading this. Any serious thinker who is honest and observant will become agnostic in trying to remain with the ultra conservative ideas of literal six day creation. What a beautiful creation was being made by a glorious intelligent designer!
Very good and educational, explaining how it all connects and coincides with the Bible’s account.
I can't wait to share this article with my grandson.
Yes there were people before Adam, the cave Men and the ice Age.
Fascinating to think about. Here is something also to absorb. Let Us make man in Our image. Who is Us? Why not let Me make man in my image. Sounds plural to me. Thank you for the compelling argument Adam is not the first man:)
Thank you for the article! There are several nonbelievers in my life that I love deeply. My heart breaks for them. Every time I share my faith, I'm bombarded with science. Perhaps this will help. Thank you. God bless you.
this page can go to hell the bible is the truth idiots science is what a man created not GOD!
Would like to keep you on my site for further study. You made me think.
Thank you for your studies. I find them fascinating. And I will read more of your articles.
I stumbled on your website recently, and was impressed by the scope of it and the balance evident in it.
Thanks for the analysis
It's constructive that science keeps indefinitely improving with better observations and verifiable facts. Immutable good scriptures should simply keep itself relevant by subtle changes in its interpretation to complement and coexist with science. Good work!
Thank you so much for confirming what I had always thought!!! Our Father makes wonderous wonders!!!
False teaching. Repent
Enjoyed the read. I am a believer.
So far you make a lot of sense, I do believe in God.
You are absolutely wrong
How great it is to have a resource to help in ministering to the sceptical. Thank you. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to upcoming studies.
I have always thought this to be true but have never heard it said! Praise God!
Great information, it is worth further studies. Kept up the good work, all of us need to read and study the bible more including me. We need to remember Christ is the Only Way to eternal life.
Great work! Keep up the war against the ignorant churchians, and supporting Christian enlightenment!
I'm a pastor in NE Ohio. Good stuff!!
Interesting and thought provoking.
God created everything that was created in six literal days.
I don’t think Adam was the first human on earth. I am 72 in age. Most people my age and older do not have this perception. But from my bible study I believe this Genesis points to others.
Please pray for me as I ponder the input you've provided online.
Thank you I knew about these things but I did not understand
This is great, I am going to read more of your topics!
Only when ignorance, in the name of science, tries to be wiser than what scripture say, is when Gods Word is twisted, unto their own destruction
I want more information and I want bible study
Brilliant
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